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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	mgorman@suse.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, x86@kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, luto@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	yue.li@memverge.com, Ravikumar.Bangoria@amd.com,
	ying.huang@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Memory access profiler(IBS) driven NUMA balancing
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 20:40:09 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fbd1cf44-3643-4274-5a42-3516d4842830@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e0a8ff65-b0f9-1f63-a3a0-2986eb79846f@amd.com>

On 2/9/23 20:28, Bharata B Rao wrote:
> On 2/9/2023 7:58 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> On 2/8/23 22:04, Bharata B Rao wrote:
>>>> First, IIRC, Intel PEBS at the time only gave guest virtual addresses in
>>>> the PEBS records.  They had to be translated back to host addresses to
>>>> be usable.  That was extra expensive.
>>> Just to be clear, I am using IBS in host only and it can give both virtual
>>> and physical address.
>> Could you talk a little bit about how IBS might get used for NUMA
>> balancing guest memory?
> IBS can work for guest, but will not provide physical address. Also
> the support for virtualized IBS isn't upstream yet.
> 
> However I am not sure how effective or useful NUMA balancing within a guest
> is, as the actual physical addresses are transparent to the guest.
> 
> Additionally when using IBS in host, it is possible to prevent collection
> of samples from secure guests by using the PreventHostIBS feature.
> (https://lore.kernel.org/linux-perf-users/20230206060545.628502-1-manali.shukla@amd.com/T/#)
I was wondering specifically about how a host might use IBS to balance
guest memory transparently to the guest.  Now how a guest might use IBS
to balance its own memory.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-10  4:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-08  7:35 Bharata B Rao
2023-02-08  7:35 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] x86/ibs: In-kernel IBS driver for page access profiling Bharata B Rao
2023-02-08  7:35 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] x86/ibs: Drive NUMA balancing via IBS access data Bharata B Rao
2023-02-08  7:35 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] x86/ibs: Enable per-process IBS from sched switch path Bharata B Rao
2023-02-08  7:35 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] x86/ibs: Adjust access faults sampling period Bharata B Rao
2023-02-08  7:35 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] x86/ibs: Delay the collection of HW-provided access info Bharata B Rao
2023-02-08 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Memory access profiler(IBS) driven NUMA balancing Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-08 18:12   ` Dave Hansen
2023-02-09  6:04     ` Bharata B Rao
2023-02-09 14:28       ` Dave Hansen
2023-02-10  4:28         ` Bharata B Rao
2023-02-10  4:40           ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2023-02-10 15:10             ` Bharata B Rao
2023-02-09  5:57   ` Bharata B Rao
2023-02-13  2:56     ` Huang, Ying
2023-02-13  3:23       ` Bharata B Rao
2023-02-13  3:34         ` Huang, Ying
2023-02-13  3:26 ` Huang, Ying
2023-02-13  5:52   ` Bharata B Rao
2023-02-13  6:30     ` Huang, Ying
2023-02-14  4:55       ` Bharata B Rao
2023-02-15  6:07         ` Huang, Ying
2023-02-24  3:28           ` Bharata B Rao
2023-02-16  8:41         ` Bharata B Rao
2023-02-17  6:03           ` Huang, Ying
2023-02-24  3:36             ` Bharata B Rao
2023-02-27  7:54               ` Huang, Ying
2023-03-01 11:21                 ` Bharata B Rao
2023-03-02  8:10                   ` Huang, Ying
2023-03-03  5:25                     ` Bharata B Rao
2023-03-03  5:53                       ` Huang, Ying
2023-03-06 15:30                         ` Bharata B Rao
2023-03-07  2:33                           ` Huang, Ying

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