From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Tools for explaining memory mappings/usage/pressure
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 14:57:57 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fba2dbce-d4e2-a838-2f17-aa1592787bd4@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <549a3199-2eb5-41b1-a03b-9cc571e72e03@kernel.org>
On Mon, 22 Jul 2024, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> On 7/6/24 10:55 PM, David Rientjes wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm trying to crowdsource information on open source tools that can be
> > used directly by customers to explain memory mappings, usage, pressure,
> > etc.
> >
> > We encounter both internal and external users that are looking for this
> > insight and it often requires significant engineering time to collect data
> > to make any conclusions.
> >
> > A recent example is an external customer that recently upgraded their
> > userspace and started to run into memcg constrained memory pressure that
> > wasn't previously observed. After handing off a hacky script to run in
> > the background, it was immediately obvious that the source of the direct
> > reclaim was all of the MADV_FREE memory that was sitting around.
> > Converting to MADV_DONTNEED solved their issue.
>
> BTW, was this reported/fixed upstream? Sounds like a bug to me that would
> better be fixed than suggesting the MADV_DONTNEED workaround to everyone
> from now on.
>
From the kernel perspective, it was working as intended: nearly half of
the customer's memory (32GB VM instance) was lazily freeable under memory
pressure and they were not expecting any reclaim stalls for future page
faults. A recent upgrade of their userspace had switched heap freeing in
a library from MADV_DONTNEED -> MADV_FREE implicitly without the user's
direct knowledge :/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-22 21:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-06 20:55 David Rientjes
2024-07-07 15:44 ` SeongJae Park
2024-07-08 13:50 ` Dan Schatzberg
2024-07-21 23:05 ` David Rientjes
2024-07-22 22:15 ` Dan Schatzberg
2024-07-22 9:05 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2024-07-22 21:57 ` David Rientjes [this message]
2024-12-30 8:15 ` Raghavendra K T
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