From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 07/14] mm/khugepaged: add vm_flags_ignore to hugepage_vma_revalidate_pmd_count()
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 10:54:03 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fb51b5e-b747-90a9-c7e8-6aa728946993@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30571216-5a6a-7a11-3b2c-77d914025f6d@redhat.com>
On Thu, 10 Mar 2022, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 08.03.22 22:34, Zach O'Keefe wrote:
> > In madvise collapse context, we optionally want to be able to ignore
> > advice from MADV_NOHUGEPAGE-marked regions.
> >
> > Add a vm_flags_ignore argument to hugepage_vma_revalidate_pmd_count()
> > which can be used to ignore vm flags used when considering thp
> > eligibility.
>
> arch/s390/mm/gmap.c:thp_split_mm() sets VM_NOHUGEPAGE to make sure there
> are *really* no thp. Being able to bypass that would break KVM horribly.
>
> Ignoring MADV_NOHUGEPAGE/VM_NOHUGEPAGE feels like the wrong way to go.
>
Agreed, we'll have to remove this possibility.
> What about a prctl instead, to disable any khugepagd activity and just
> let that process control it manually?
>
No objection to the prctl, although it's unfortunate that the existing
PR_SET_THP_DISABLE simply disables thp for the process entirely for any
non-zero value and that this wasn't implemented as a bitmask to specify
future behavior where this new behavior could be defined :/
I'll note, however, that we'd have no immediate use case ourselves for the
prctl, although others may. Our approach will likely be to disable
khugepaged entirely in favor of outsourcing hugepage policy decisions to
userspace based on a number of different signals. (In fact, also doing
thp enabled = madvise system wide)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-10 18:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-08 21:34 [RFC PATCH 00/14] mm: userspace hugepage collapse Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 01/14] mm/rmap: add mm_find_pmd_raw helper Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-09 22:48 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 02/14] mm/khugepaged: add struct collapse_control Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-09 22:53 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 03/14] mm/khugepaged: add __do_collapse_huge_page() helper Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 04/14] mm/khugepaged: separate khugepaged_scan_pmd() scan and collapse Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 05/14] mm/khugepaged: add mmap_assert_locked() checks to scan_pmd() Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 06/14] mm/khugepaged: add hugepage_vma_revalidate_pmd_count() Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-09 23:15 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 07/14] mm/khugepaged: add vm_flags_ignore to hugepage_vma_revalidate_pmd_count() Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-09 23:17 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 0:00 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 0:41 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 1:09 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 2:16 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 15:50 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 18:17 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 18:46 ` David Rientjes
2022-03-10 18:58 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 19:54 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 20:24 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 18:53 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 15:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-10 18:39 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 18:54 ` David Rientjes [this message]
2022-03-21 14:27 ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 08/14] mm/thp: add madv_thp_vm_flags to __transparent_hugepage_enabled() Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 09/14] mm/khugepaged: record SCAN_PAGE_COMPOUND when scan_pmd() finds THP Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-09 23:40 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 0:46 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 2:05 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 8:37 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 10/14] mm/khugepaged: rename khugepaged-specific/not functions Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 11/14] mm/madvise: introduce MADV_COLLAPSE sync hugepage collapse Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-09 23:43 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 1:11 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 12/14] mm/madvise: introduce batched madvise(MADV_COLLPASE) collapse Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 0:06 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 19:26 ` David Rientjes
2022-03-10 20:16 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-03-11 0:06 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-25 16:51 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-25 19:54 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 13/14] mm/madvise: add __madvise_collapse_*_batch() actions Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 14/14] mm/madvise: add process_madvise(MADV_COLLAPSE) Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-21 14:32 ` [RFC PATCH 00/14] mm: userspace hugepage collapse Zi Yan
2022-03-21 14:51 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-21 14:37 ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-21 15:46 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-22 12:11 ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-22 15:53 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-29 12:24 ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-30 0:36 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-22 6:40 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-22 12:05 ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-23 13:30 ` Zach O'Keefe
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