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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 18DC540017 X-Stat-Signature: howf8fewcupnb14ccj7i3diqpxexut3s X-Rspam-User: X-Rspamd-Server: rspam12 X-HE-Tag: 1738703119-941091 X-HE-Meta: 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 XGq5LOe6 GqhFw3fwgxXlyluFXhF3AQEm7L6JakjWjeNKU8phdzLladhUNLKzgstb40C/dCnOhoae/aVcp5SqC6cdEIPXyKosi+ucw5VCfqACrxICm7GBEacdTs3SYVEwgXI5VPiZB/pIhHtcpIb7j69nBxi6wgujmTzR0q5a+XN6SbJDMkShCunFBu6vYrvRJ0FFtjPBdu7t9Fvdn969PIN34DwELEMsLihTWcYARNGwH+EFdK3ehyo7UcOdEmYtFkP5oULjnDeCX8dEY885ZPrU2fRRy6/zLCpM3HnWKAJxhSJHfnNxEUpGHzm/Gnh1BSEtCpU52RPelbS+6OOX/qIw= X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 2/4/25 10:58, Christoph Lameter (Ampere) wrote: > ARM64 supports MTE which is hardware support for tagging 16 byte granules > and verification of tags in pointers all in hardware and on some platforms > with *no* performance penalty since the tag is stored in the ECC areas of > DRAM and verified at the same time as the ECC. > > Could we get support for that? This would allow us to enable tag checking > in production systems without performance penalty and no memory overhead. At least on the Intel side, there's no trajectory for doing something like the MTE architecture for memory tagging. The DRAM "ECC" area is in very high demand and if anything things are moving away from using ECC "bits" for anything other than actual ECC. Even the MKTME+integrity (used for TDX) metadata is probably going to find a new home at some point. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone on cc here. If it is, you should probably be reaching out to Intel over your normal channels.