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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@virtuozzo.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: make PR_SET_THP_DISABLE immediately active
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 22:55:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f9e8a159-7a25-6813-f909-11c4ae58adf3@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170602134038.13728cb77678ae1a7d7128a4@linux-foundation.org>

On 06/02/2017 10:40 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 22:31:47 +0200 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
>>> Perhaps we should be adding new prctl modes to select this new
>>> behaviour and leave the existing PR_SET_THP_DISABLE behaviour as-is?
>>
>> I think we can reasonably assume that most users of the prctl do just
>> the fork() & exec() thing, so they will be unaffected.
> 
> That sounds optimistic.  Perhaps people are using the current behaviour
> to set on particular mapping to MMF_DISABLE_THP, with
> 
> 	prctl(PR_SET_THP_DISABLE)
> 	mmap()
> 	prctl(PR_CLR_THP_DISABLE)
> 
> ?
> 
> Seems a reasonable thing to do.

Using madvise(MADV_NOHUGEPAGE) seems reasonabler to me, with the same
effect. And it's older (2.6.38).

> But who knows - people do all sorts of
> inventive things.

Yeah :( but we can hope they don't even know that the prctl currently
behaves they way it does - man page doesn't suggest it would, and most
of us in this thread found it surprising.

>> And as usual, if
>> somebody does complain in the end, we revert and try the other way?
> 
> But by then it's too late - the new behaviour will be out in the field.

Revert in stable then?
But I don't think this patch should go to stable. I understand right
that CRIU will switch to the UFFDIO_COPY approach and doesn't need the
prctl change/new madvise anymore?

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-02 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-02 15:03 Mike Rapoport
2017-06-02 19:50 ` Andrew Morton
2017-06-02 20:31   ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-06-02 20:40     ` Andrew Morton
2017-06-02 20:55       ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2017-06-02 21:10         ` Andrew Morton
2017-06-05  9:27           ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-06-03 10:34         ` Mike Rapoprt
2017-06-05  7:05           ` Mike Rapoport
2017-06-03  7:40       ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-03 10:40   ` Mike Rapoprt

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