From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
maple-tree@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
Shanker Donthineni <sdonthineni@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] maple_tree: Disable mas_wr_append() when other readers are possible
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 01:30:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f9b0a88c-8a64-439f-a488-85d500c9f2aa@paulmck-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdWKwdxjRf031aD=Ko7vRdvFW-OR48QAc=ZFy=FP_LNAoA@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:23:37AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:14 AM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 07:54:52PM -0400, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
> > > * Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> [230906 14:03]:
> > > > On Wed, Sep 06, 2023 at 01:29:54PM -0400, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
> > > > > * Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> [230906 13:24]:
> > > > > > On Wed, Sep 06, 2023 at 11:23:25AM -0400, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
> > > > > > > (Adding Paul & Shanker to Cc list.. please see below for why)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Apologies on the late response, I was away and have been struggling to
> > > > > > > get a working PPC32 test environment.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> [230829 12:42]:
> > > > > > > > Hi Liam,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2023, Liam R. Howlett wrote:
> > > > > > > > > The current implementation of append may cause duplicate data and/or
> > > > > > > > > incorrect ranges to be returned to a reader during an update. Although
> > > > > > > > > this has not been reported or seen, disable the append write operation
> > > > > > > > > while the tree is in rcu mode out of an abundance of caution.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > > > > > > RCU-related configs:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > $ grep RCU .config
> > > > > > > > # RCU Subsystem
> > > > > > > > CONFIG_TINY_RCU=y
> >
> > I must have been asleep last time I looked at this. I was looking at
> > Tree RCU. Please accept my apologies for my lapse. :-/
> >
> > However, Tiny RCU's call_rcu() also avoids enabling IRQs, so I would
> > have said the same thing, albeit after looking at a lot less RCU code.
> >
> > TL;DR:
> >
> > 1. Try making the __setup_irq() function's call to mutex_lock()
> > instead be as follows:
> >
> > if (!mutex_trylock(&desc->request_mutex))
> > mutex_lock(&desc->request_mutex);
> >
> > This might fail if __setup_irq() has other dependencies on a
> > fully operational scheduler.
> >
> > 2. Move that ppc32 call to __setup_irq() much later, most definitely
> > after interrupts have been enabled and the scheduler is fully
> > operational. Invoking mutex_lock() before that time is not a
> > good idea. ;-)
>
> There is no call to __setup_irq() from arch/powerpc/?
Glad it is not just me, given that I didn't see a direct call, either. So
later in this email, I asked Liam to put a WARN_ON_ONCE(irqs_disabled())
just before that mutex_lock() in __setup_irq().
Either way, invoking mutex_lock() early in boot before interrupts have
been enabled is a bad idea. ;-)
> Note that there are (possibly different) issues seen on ppc32 and on arm32
> (Renesas RZ/A in particular, but not on other Renesas ARM systems).
>
> I saw an issue on arm32 with cfeb6ae8bcb96ccf, but not with cfeb6ae8bcb96ccf^.
> Other people saw an issue on ppc32 with both cfeb6ae8bcb96ccf and
> cfeb6ae8bcb96ccf^.
I look forward to hearing what is the issue in both cases.
Thanx, Paul
> Thanks!
>
> Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
>
> Geert
>
> --
> Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
>
> In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
> when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
> -- Linus Torvalds
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-12 8:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-19 0:43 [PATCH v2 0/2] maple_tree: mas_wr_append() fix ups Liam R. Howlett
2023-08-19 0:43 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] maple_tree: Disable mas_wr_append() when other readers are possible Liam R. Howlett
2023-08-29 16:42 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-31 5:39 ` Michael Ellerman
2023-08-31 8:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-08-31 8:45 ` Peng Zhang
2023-08-31 9:43 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-06 15:23 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-06 17:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-09-06 17:29 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-06 18:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-09-11 23:54 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-12 8:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-09-12 8:23 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-12 8:30 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2023-09-12 8:34 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-12 10:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-09-12 13:56 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-12 14:29 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-12 15:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-09-12 15:27 ` Christophe Leroy
2023-09-12 15:49 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-12 15:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-09-12 15:44 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-12 16:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-09-12 17:02 ` Christophe Leroy
2023-09-12 17:09 ` Christophe Leroy
2023-09-12 17:38 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-13 13:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-13 13:24 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-13 13:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-12 14:37 ` Christophe Leroy
2023-09-12 14:10 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-09-12 14:17 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-06 19:06 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-11 12:27 ` Linux regression tracking #adding (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-10-16 8:29 ` Linux regression tracking #update (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-08-30 19:49 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-08-31 5:37 ` Michael Ellerman
2023-08-31 19:01 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-09-12 18:15 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-09-12 19:09 ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-09-12 20:01 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-08-19 0:43 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] maple_tree: Clean up mas_wr_append() Liam R. Howlett
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