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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Jeff Xu <jeffxu@chromium.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/5] mm/mseal: simplify and rename VMA gap check
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 20:10:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f860d082-384d-4230-bb1c-09206c7daf72@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ca6af6bc-1c5b-47fc-a00b-11d46867b5e7@lucifer.local>

On 25.07.25 19:43, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 10:30:08AM -0700, Jeff Xu wrote:
>> Hi Lorenzo,
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 1:30 AM Lorenzo Stoakes
>> <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The check_mm_seal() function is doing something general - checking whether
>>> a range contains only VMAs (or rather that it does NOT contain any
>>> unmapped regions).
>>>
>>> So rename this function to range_contains_unmapped().
>>>
>> Thanks for keeping the comments.
> 
> You're welcome.
> 
>>
>> In the prior version of this patch, I requested that we keep the
>> check_mm_seal()  and its comments. And this version keeps the comments
>> but removes the check_mm_seal() name.
> 
> I didn't catch that being your request.
> 
>>
>> As I said, check_mm_seal() with its comments is a contract for
>> entry-check for mseal().  My understanding is that you are going to
>> move range_contains_unmapped() to vma.c. When that happens, mseal()
>> will lose this entry-check contract.
> 
> This is just bizarre.
> 
> Code doesn't stop working if you put it in another function.
> 
> And you're now reviewing me for stuff I haven't done? :P
> 
>>
>> Contact is a great way to hide implementation details. Could you
>> please keep check_mm_seal() in mseal.c and create
>> range_contains_unmapped() in vma.c. Then you can refactor as needed.
> 
> Wait what?

do_mseal() calls range_contains_unmapped(), so I don't see the problem.

We could add a comment above the range_contains_unmapped(), call stating 
*why* we do that, which is much more relevant than some check_XXX function.

/*
  * mseal() is documented to reject ranges that contain unmapped ranges
  * (VMA holes): we can only seal VMAs, so nothing would stop mmap() etc.
  * from succeeding on these unmapped ranged later, and we would not
  * actually be sealing the requested range.
  */

Something like that.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-25 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-25  8:29 [PATCH v4 0/5] mseal cleanups Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25  8:29 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] mm/mseal: always define VM_SEALED Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25  8:29 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] mm/mseal: update madvise() logic Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 17:28   ` Jeff Xu
2025-07-25 17:53     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 18:41       ` Jeff Xu
2025-07-25 18:44         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25  8:29 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] mm/mseal: small cleanups Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25  8:29 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] mm/mseal: simplify and rename VMA gap check Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 17:30   ` Jeff Xu
2025-07-25 17:43     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 18:09       ` Jeff Xu
2025-07-25 18:15         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 19:32         ` Pedro Falcato
2025-07-25 18:10       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-07-25 18:22         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 18:26         ` Jeff Xu
2025-07-25 18:41   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-25 19:34   ` Pedro Falcato
2025-07-25  8:29 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] mm/mseal: rework mseal apply logic Lorenzo Stoakes

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