linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Does GUP page unpinning have to be done in the pinning context?
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 12:34:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7d0df82-18a6-41e7-9588-e841b2a01d18@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z_gYpwn5TvvYap6N@casper.infradead.org>

On 4/10/25 12:14 PM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 12:11:42PM -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
>> On 4/10/25 12:28 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 07:56:07PM -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
...
>> Oh actually I think I was wrong in my earlier reply about clearing
>> the dirty bit. Because in Jan Kara's original bug report, what
>> happened was that periodic writeback came in while the pages
>> were pinned, and cleared the dirty bit--and also deleted the
>> page buffers (file system specific behavior) that are required
>> for writeback.
>>
>> So then later when the pages are unpinned and marked dirty,
>> that causes the next writeback to fail in an unexpected way
>> (it used to cause ext4 BUG checks, in fact).
>>
>> So the problem here is that these pinned pages can get cleaned
>> while they are pinned, and then dirtied again by DMA (invisible
>> to the filesystem).
> 
> Did we fix that already?  Because it's relatively easy to writeback

Maybe not?

On a closely related note, I do still see folio_clear_dirty() being 
called from ext4's mpage_prepare_extent_to_map(), along with the ext4
bandaid [1] that was applied to mitigate the problem:

	/*
	* Should never happen but for buggy code in
	* other subsystems that call
	* set_page_dirty() without properly warning
	* the file system first.  See [1] for more
	* information.
	*
	* [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20180103100430.GE4911@quack2.suse.cz
	*/
if (!folio_buffers(folio)) {
	ext4_warning_inode(mpd->inode, "page %lu does not have buffers attached", folio->index);
	folio_clear_dirty(folio);
	folio_unlock(folio);
	continue;
}

[1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=cc5095747edf


> pinned pages and _not_ clear the dirty flag.  That handles the two
> problems which are falsely thinking that a heavily-mapped order-0 page 
> is pinned (we write it back anyway, so don't lose data on crash),
> and doesn't strip the bufferheads.

That sounds like a viable solution!

thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard



  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-10 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-04 10:20 David Howells
2025-04-04 10:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-04 16:59   ` John Hubbard
2025-04-07  6:39     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-10  2:56       ` John Hubbard
2025-04-10  7:28         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-10 19:11           ` John Hubbard
2025-04-10 19:14             ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-04-10 19:34               ` John Hubbard [this message]
2025-05-12  6:21             ` Christoph Hellwig

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=f7d0df82-18a6-41e7-9588-e841b2a01d18@nvidia.com \
    --to=jhubbard@nvidia.com \
    --cc=axboe@kernel.dk \
    --cc=david@redhat.com \
    --cc=dhowells@redhat.com \
    --cc=hch@infradead.org \
    --cc=kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=linux-block@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=willy@infradead.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox