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From: Rongwei Wang <rongwei.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Zach O'Keefe <zokeefe@google.com>
Cc: Alex Shi <alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 10/13] mm/madvise: add MADV_COLLAPSE to process_madvise()
Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 23:53:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f79ddd99-a556-8484-f39d-f64f3bf9d5f2@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAa6QmSYu5+3Uoe2ObkjEP9x76aY2DC3Nnu62o9Xc8tfB7J+bQ@mail.gmail.com>



On 5/11/22 11:34 PM, Zach O'Keefe wrote:
> Hey Rongwei,
> 
> Thanks for taking the time to review!
> 
> On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 5:49 PM Rongwei Wang
> <rongwei.wang@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Zach
>>
>> Thanks for your great patchset!
>> Recently, We also try to collapse THP in this way, likes performance
>> degradation due to using too much hugepages in our scenes.
>>
>> And there is a doubt about process_madvise(MADV_COLLAPSE) when we test
>> this patchset:. It seems that process_madvise(MADV_COLLAPSE) rely on
>> madvise(MADV_HUGEPAGE)? If the vma wasn't marked with 'hg',
>> process_madvise(MADV_COLLAPSE) will fail to collapse. And if I miss
>> something, please let me know.
>>
> 
> I tried to have MADV_COLLAPSE follow the same THP eligibility
> semantics as khugepaged and at-fault: either THP=always, or
> THP=madvise and the vma is marked with MADV_HUGEPAGE, as you point
> out.
> 
> If I understand you correctly, the usefulness of
> process_madvise(MADV_COLLAPSE) is limited in the case where
> THP=madvise and a CAP_SYS_ADMIN user is requesting a collapse of
> behalf of another process since they don't have a way to mark the
> target memory as eligible (which requires VM_HUGEPAGE).
Hi Zach

Yes, that's my means. It seems that MADV_[NO]HUGEPAGE for 
process_madivse(2) just needs little codes.

Anyway, looking forward to your next patchset.

Thanks
-wrw

> 
> If so, I think that's a valid point, and your suggestion below of a
> supporting MADV_[NO]HUGEPAGE for process_madvise(2) makes sense. For
> the sake of exploring all options, I'll mention that there was also a
> previous idea suggested by Yang Shi where MADV_COLLAPSE could also set
> VM_HUGEPAGE[1].
> 
> Since it's possible supporting MADV_[NO]HUGEPAGE for
> process_madivse(2) has applications outside a subsequent
> MADV_COLLAPSE, and since I don't see process_madvise(MADV_COLLAPSE) to
> be in a hot path, I'd vote in favor of your suggestion and include
> process_madvise(MADV_[NO]HUGEPAGE) support in v6 unless others object.
> 
> Thanks again for your review and your suggestion!
> Zach
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/CAHbLzkqLRBd6u3qn=KqpOhRcPZtpGXbTXLUjK1z=4d_dQ06Pvw@mail.gmail.com/
> 
>> If so, how about introducing process_madvise(MADV_HUGEPAGE) or
>> process_madvise(MADV_NOHUGEPAGE)? The former helps to mark the target
>> vma with 'hg', and the collapse process can be finished completely with
>> the help of other processes. the latter could let some special vma avoid
>> collapsing when setting 'THP=always'.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> -wrw
>>
>> On 5/5/22 5:44 AM, Zach O'Keefe wrote:
>>> Allow MADV_COLLAPSE behavior for process_madvise(2) if caller has
>>> CAP_SYS_ADMIN or is requesting collapse of it's own memory.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Zach O'Keefe <zokeefe@google.com>
>>> ---
>>>    mm/madvise.c | 6 ++++--
>>>    1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/mm/madvise.c b/mm/madvise.c
>>> index 638517952bd2..08c11217025a 100644
>>> --- a/mm/madvise.c
>>> +++ b/mm/madvise.c
>>> @@ -1168,13 +1168,15 @@ madvise_behavior_valid(int behavior)
>>>    }
>>>
>>>    static bool
>>> -process_madvise_behavior_valid(int behavior)
>>> +process_madvise_behavior_valid(int behavior, struct task_struct *task)
>>>    {
>>>        switch (behavior) {
>>>        case MADV_COLD:
>>>        case MADV_PAGEOUT:
>>>        case MADV_WILLNEED:
>>>                return true;
>>> +     case MADV_COLLAPSE:
>>> +             return task == current || capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN);
>>>        default:
>>>                return false;
>>>        }
>>> @@ -1452,7 +1454,7 @@ SYSCALL_DEFINE5(process_madvise, int, pidfd, const struct iovec __user *, vec,
>>>                goto free_iov;
>>>        }
>>>
>>> -     if (!process_madvise_behavior_valid(behavior)) {
>>> +     if (!process_madvise_behavior_valid(behavior, task)) {
>>>                ret = -EINVAL;
>>>                goto release_task;
>>>        }


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-12 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-04 21:44 [PATCH v5 00/12] mm: userspace hugepage collapse Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-04 21:44 ` [PATCH v5 01/13] mm/khugepaged: record SCAN_PMD_MAPPED when scan_pmd() finds THP Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-18 18:41   ` Peter Xu
2022-05-19 21:06     ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-20  1:12       ` Peter Xu
2022-05-04 21:44 ` [PATCH v5 02/13] mm/khugepaged: add struct collapse_control Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-12 20:02   ` David Rientjes
2022-05-18 20:03   ` Peter Xu
2022-05-18 20:11     ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-04 21:44 ` [PATCH v5 03/13] mm/khugepaged: dedup and simplify hugepage alloc and charging Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-12 20:02   ` David Rientjes
2022-05-13 18:26     ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-04 21:44 ` [PATCH v5 04/13] mm/khugepaged: make hugepage allocation context-specific Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-12 20:02   ` David Rientjes
2022-05-13 23:04     ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-13 23:17       ` Yang Shi
2022-05-13 23:55         ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-17 17:18           ` Yang Shi
2022-05-17 22:35             ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-25 17:58               ` Yang Shi
2022-05-25 18:27                 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-04 21:44 ` [PATCH v5 05/13] mm/khugepaged: pipe enum scan_result codes back to callers Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-12 20:02   ` David Rientjes
2022-05-04 21:44 ` [PATCH v5 06/13] mm/khugepaged: add flag to ignore khugepaged_max_ptes_* Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-12 20:03   ` David Rientjes
2022-05-04 21:44 ` [PATCH v5 07/13] mm/khugepaged: add flag to ignore page young/referenced requirement Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-12 20:03   ` David Rientjes
2022-05-13 18:17     ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-04 21:44 ` [PATCH v5 08/13] mm/madvise: introduce MADV_COLLAPSE sync hugepage collapse Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-05 18:50   ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-05 18:58     ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-04 21:44 ` [PATCH v5 09/13] mm/khugepaged: rename prefix of shared collapse functions Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-12 20:03   ` David Rientjes
2022-05-04 21:44 ` [PATCH v5 10/13] mm/madvise: add MADV_COLLAPSE to process_madvise() Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-11  0:49   ` Rongwei Wang
2022-05-11 15:34     ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-12 15:53       ` Rongwei Wang [this message]
2022-05-12 20:03       ` David Rientjes
2022-05-13 21:06         ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-16  3:56         ` Rongwei Wang
2022-05-12 20:03   ` David Rientjes
2022-05-04 21:44 ` [PATCH v5 11/13] selftests/vm: modularize collapse selftests Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-04 21:44 ` [PATCH v5 12/13] selftests/vm: add MADV_COLLAPSE collapse context to selftests Zach O'Keefe
2022-05-04 21:44 ` [PATCH v5 13/13] selftests/vm: add test to verify recollapse of THPs Zach O'Keefe

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