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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Patrick Daly <quic_pdaly@quicinc.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
Subject: Re: Race condition in build_all_zonelists() when offlining movable zone
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 10:52:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f70ac93a-8dd2-e157-8c25-790ee8838e0d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220823083349.5c2aolc6xgfhp3k7@suse.de>

On 23.08.22 10:33, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 08:36:34AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> @@ -6517,6 +6538,7 @@ static void __build_all_zonelists(void *data)
>>>  	static DEFINE_SPINLOCK(lock);
>>>  
>>>  	spin_lock(&lock);
>>> +	write_seqcount_begin(&zonelist_update_seq);
>>>  
>>>  #ifdef CONFIG_NUMA
>>>  	memset(node_load, 0, sizeof(node_load));
>>> @@ -6553,6 +6575,7 @@ static void __build_all_zonelists(void *data)
>>>  #endif
>>>  	}
>>>  
>>> +	write_seqcount_end(&zonelist_update_seq);
>>>  	spin_unlock(&lock);
>>
>> Do we want to get rid of the static lock by using a seqlock_t instead of
>> a seqcount_t?
>>
> 
> I do not think so because it's a relatively heavy lock compared to the
> counter and the read side.

I was primarily asking because seqlock.h states: "Sequential locks
(seqlock_t):  Sequence counters with an embedded spinlock for writer
serialization and non-preemptibility." seems to be precisely what we are
doing here.

> 
> As the read-side can be called from hardirq or softirq context, the
> write-side needs to disable irqs or bottom halves as well according to the
> documentation. That is relatively minor as the write side is rare but it's
> tricker because the calling context can be both IRQ or softirq so the IRQ
> protection would have to be used.

Naive me would just have used write_seqlock()/write_sequnlock() and
read_seqbegin()/read_seqretry() to result in almost the same code as
with your change -- but having both mechanisms encapsulated.


Yeah, there are special write_seqlock_bh()/write_sequnlock_bh(),
write_sequnlock_irq() ... but IIRC we don't have to care about that at
all when just using the primitives as above. But most probably I am
missing something important.

> 
> The read-side also gets more complicated. The read side becomes
> either read_seqlock_excl() (or bh or IRQ as appropriate) or
> read_seqbegin_or_lock. The read_seqlock_excl acts like a spinlock blocking
> out other readers and writers, we definitely do not want to block out other
> readers in the allocator path because .... that is crazy, it's basically a
> global memory allocator lock. There is not an obvious option of limiting

Yes.

> the scope of that lock such as a single zone because it's the zonelists
> we care about, not an individual zone. I guess it could be done on a
> pgdat basis selected by the preferred zone but it's also unnecessarily
> complicated and a relatively heavy lock.
> 
> The other obvious choice is read_seqbegin_or_lock to locklessly try and
> then retry if necessary. This has better semantics as a lockless version
> exists with the caller tracking more state but again, the retry step is
> heavy and acts as a global lock.

Documentation/locking/seqlock.rst points out read path #1, that's just
for "Normal Sequence readers which never block a writer but they must
retry if a writer is in progress by detecting change in the sequence
number."

It's a simple use of read_seqbegin/read_seqretry.
read_seqbegin()/read_seqretry() translate essentially to
read_seqcount_begin()/read_seqcount_begin() -- except some kcsan() checks.

> 
> In this case, the seqcounter or seqlock is protecting relatively simple
> data -- the zonelist pointing to struct zones that never disappear (the
> zone might be unpopulated but the struct zone still exists). The critical
> data being protected in this context is either the PCP lists or the buddy
> lists, each which has separate locking. The zonelist needs less protection
> although RCU protection would be a potential, if somewhat complicated
> option, as even if the zonelist itself is valid after an RCU update,
> the zones listed are not necessarily useful any more.
> 
> There is no real advantage to using seqcount_spinlock_t either as the
> associated lock would be a global lock and there isn't any lockdep advantage
> to doing that either.
> 
> As the alternatives have side effects, I would prefer to see any proposed
> conversion on top of the fix with review determining if there is any
> unnecessary additional serialisation.
> 

Agreed with more complicated conversions. Using a seqlock_t to replace
the spinlock and avoid introducing the sequcount here would have been
easy and straight forward, though.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-23  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-17  3:42 Patrick Daly
     [not found] ` <YvyM1AWeJRt6PF9B@dhcp22.suse.cz>
     [not found]   ` <YvyRvxO+FHMyuGn3@dhcp22.suse.cz>
     [not found]     ` <20220817104028.uin7cmkb4qlpgfbi@suse.de>
     [not found]       ` <YvzI0PHW6uojk+N1@dhcp22.suse.cz>
     [not found]         ` <20220817112647.z7wenwjpyt3hphtk@suse.de>
2022-08-19  2:11           ` Patrick Daly
2022-08-22 20:18           ` Patrick Daly
2022-08-23  6:36       ` David Hildenbrand
     [not found]         ` <20220823083349.5c2aolc6xgfhp3k7@suse.de>
2022-08-23  8:52           ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2022-08-23  9:49             ` Mel Gorman
2022-08-23 10:34               ` David Hildenbrand
     [not found]                 ` <20220823110946.o3eawk3kghaykcim@suse.de>
2022-08-23 12:18                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                     ` <20220823125850.o3nhkmikmv7vyxq4@suse.de>
2022-08-23 13:25                       ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-23 13:50                         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-23 13:57                           ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-23 15:14                             ` Mel Gorman
2022-08-23 15:38                               ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-23 15:51                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-24  9:45                                   ` Mel Gorman

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