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From: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Zach O'Keefe <zokeefe@google.com>
Cc: Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH man-pages v3 4/4] madvise.2: add documentation for MADV_COLLAPSE
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 22:55:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f5e276a1-cfb5-4b92-37d2-4630cc55bbc1@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAa6QmQU5T9E1kCxE3MpU6ybp0vR6kftwJiw68+5X14PoD-a5A@mail.gmail.com>


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Hey Zach,

On 12/11/22 22:51, Zach O'Keefe wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 9:59 AM Alejandro Colomar
> <alx.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Zach,
> 
> Hey Alex,
> 
>> On 10/22/22 00:33, Zach OKeefe wrote:
>>> From: Zach O'Keefe <zokeefe@google.com>
>>>
>>> Linux 6.1 introduced MADV_COLLAPSE in upstream commit 7d8faaf15545
>>> ("mm/madvise: introduce MADV_COLLAPSE sync hugepage collapse") and
>>> upstream commit 34488399fa08 ("mm/madvise: add file and shmem support to
>>> MADV_COLLAPSE").  Update the man-pages for madvise(2) and
>>> process_madvise(2).
>>>
>>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20220922224046.1143204-1-zokeefe@google.com/
>>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20220706235936.2197195-1-zokeefe@google.com/
>>> Signed-off-by: Zach O'Keefe <zokeefe@google.com>
>>
>> Please see a few comments below.
>>
> 
> Thanks for the mail. So, this patch was taken as commit b106cd5bf
> ("madvise.2: add documentation for MADV_COLLAPSE"). Some of your
> comments below were
> applied (I think, by you) as fixes pre-commit. However, there are some
> new comments (or ones
> that address the same lines, but in different ways). Is this mail to
> log ~ what changes were done,
> or is there anything actionable here on my side?

Ah no, it's just that I had it marked as unread for some reason, so I thought I 
had forgotten to respond (and I forgot that I had applied it).  :-)

So, no action required.

Regarding different suggestions, heh, it demonstrates that it's not exactly 
deterministic :P

Cheers,

Alex

P.S.: Do you know if I have anything missing from you or any of your collegues?

> 
> Best,
> Zach
> 
> Thanks for this.
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>> ---
>>>    man2/madvise.2         | 90 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>>>    man2/process_madvise.2 | 10 +++++
>>>    2 files changed, 98 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/man2/madvise.2 b/man2/madvise.2
>>> index df3413cc8..b03fc731d 100644
>>> --- a/man2/madvise.2
>>> +++ b/man2/madvise.2
>>> @@ -385,9 +385,10 @@ set (see
>>>    .BR prctl (2) ).
>>>    .IP
>>>    The
>>> -.B MADV_HUGEPAGE
>>> +.BR MADV_HUGEPAGE ,
>>> +.BR MADV_NOHUGEPAGE ,
>>>    and
>>> -.B MADV_NOHUGEPAGE
>>> +.B MADV_COLLAPSE
>>>    operations are available only if the kernel was configured with
>>>    .B CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE
>>>    and file/shmem memory is only supported if the kernel was configured with
>>> @@ -400,6 +401,81 @@ and
>>>    .I length
>>>    will not be backed by transparent hugepages.
>>>    .TP
>>> +.BR MADV_COLLAPSE " (since Linux 6.1)"
>>> +.\" commit 7d8faaf155454f8798ec56404faca29a82689c77
>>> +.\" commit 34488399fa08faaf664743fa54b271eb6f9e1321
>>> +Perform a best-effort synchronous collapse of the native pages mapped by the
>>
>> Please use semantic line breaks.  In this case, I'd break after "pages".
>>
>> man-pages(7):
>>      Use semantic newlines
>>          In  the source of a manual page, new sentences should be started on new
>>          lines, long sentences should be split into lines at clause breaks (com‐
>>          mas, semicolons, colons, and so on), and long clauses should  be  split
>>          at  phrase  boundaries.   This convention, sometimes known as "semantic
>>          newlines", makes it easier to see the effect of  patches,  which  often
>>          operate at the level of individual sentences, clauses, or phrases.
>>
>>> +memory range into Transparent Huge Pages (THPs).
>>> +.B MADV_COLLAPSE
>>> +operates on the current state of memory of the calling process and makes no
>>
>> Here I'd break after "and".
>>
>>> +persistent changes or guarantees on how pages will be mapped,
>>> +constructed,
>>> +or faulted in the future.
>>> +.IP
>>> +.B MADV_COLLAPSE
>>> +supports private anonymous pages (see
>>> +.BR mmap (2)),
>>> +shmem pages,
>>> +and file-backed pages.
>>> +See
>>> +.B MADV_HUGEPAGE
>>> +for general information on memory requirements for THP.
>>> +If the range provided spans multiple VMAs,
>>> +the semantics of the collapse over each VMA is independent from the others.
>>> +If collapse of a given huge page-aligned/sized region fails,
>>> +the operation may continue to attempt collapsing the remainder of the
>>
>> Break after "collapsing".
>>
>>> +specified memory.
>>> +.B MADV_COLLAPSE
>>> +will automatically clamp the provided range to be hugepage-aligned.
>>> +.IP
>>> +All non-resident pages covered by the range will first be
>>
>> Break after "range".
>>
>>> +swapped/faulted-in,
>>> +before being copied onto a freshly allocated hugepage.
>>> +If the native pages compose the same PTE-mapped hugepage,
>>> +and are suitably aligned,
>>> +allocation of a new hugepage may be elided and collapse may happen
>>
>> Break before or after "and".
>>
>>> +in-place.
>>> +Unmapped pages will have their data directly initialized to 0 in the new
>>
>> Break after "0".
>>
>>> +hugepage.
>>> +However,
>>> +for every eligible hugepage-aligned/sized region to be collapsed,
>>> +at least one page must currently be backed by physical memory.
>>> +.IP
>>> +.BR MADV_COLLAPSE
>>
>> s/BR/B/
>>
>>> +is independent of any sysfs
>>> +(see
>>> +.BR sysfs (5))
>>> +setting under
>>> +.IR /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage ,
>>> +both in terms of determining THP eligibility,
>>> +and allocation semantics.
>>> +See Linux kernel source file
>>> +.I Documentation/admin\-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
>>> +for more information.
>>> +.BR MADV_COLLAPSE
>>
>> s/BR/B/
>>
>>> +also ignores
>>> +.B huge=
>>> +tmpfs mount when operating on tmpfs files.
>>> +Allocation for the new hugepage may enter direct reclaim and/or compaction,
>>> +regardless of VMA flags
>>> +(though
>>> +.BR VM_NOHUGEPAGE
>>
>> s/BR/B/
>>
>>> +is still respected).
>>> +.IP
>>> +When the system has multiple NUMA nodes,
>>> +the hugepage will be allocated from the node providing the most native
>>
>> Break after "from".
>>
>>> +pages.
>>> +.IP
>>> +If all hugepage-sized/aligned regions covered by the provided range were
>>
>> Prefer English rather than "/".
>>
>>> +either successfully collapsed,
>>> +or were already PMD-mapped THPs,
>>> +this operation will be deemed successful.
>>> +Note that this doesn’t guarantee anything about other possible mappings of
>>
>> Break after "about".
>>
>>> +the memory.
>>> +Also note that many failures might have occurred since the operation may
>>> +continue to collapse in the event collapse of a single hugepage-sized/aligned
>>
>> Add some omitted "that" or something that will help readability to
>> non-native-English readers.
>>
>> And break at a better place.
>>
>>> +region fails.
>>> +.TP
>>>    .BR MADV_DONTDUMP " (since Linux 3.4)"
>>>    .\" commit 909af768e88867016f427264ae39d27a57b6a8ed
>>>    .\" commit accb61fe7bb0f5c2a4102239e4981650f9048519
>>> @@ -619,6 +695,11 @@ A kernel resource was temporarily unavailable.
>>>    .B EBADF
>>>    The map exists, but the area maps something that isn't a file.
>>>    .TP
>>> +.B EBUSY
>>> +(for
>>> +.BR MADV_COLLAPSE )
>>> +Could not charge hugepage to cgroup: cgroup limit exceeded.
>>> +.TP
>>>    .B EFAULT
>>>    .I advice
>>>    is
>>> @@ -716,6 +797,11 @@ maximum resident set size.
>>>    Not enough memory: paging in failed.
>>>    .TP
>>>    .B ENOMEM
>>> +(for
>>> +.BR MADV_COLLAPSE )
>>> +Not enough memory: could not allocate hugepage.
>>> +.TP
>>> +.B ENOMEM
>>>    Addresses in the specified range are not currently
>>>    mapped, or are outside the address space of the process.
>>>    .TP
>>> diff --git a/man2/process_madvise.2 b/man2/process_madvise.2
>>> index 44d3b94e8..8b0ddccdd 100644
>>> --- a/man2/process_madvise.2
>>> +++ b/man2/process_madvise.2
>>> @@ -73,6 +73,10 @@ argument is one of the following values:
>>>    See
>>>    .BR madvise (2).
>>>    .TP
>>> +.B MADV_COLLAPSE
>>> +See
>>> +.BR madvise (2).
>>> +.TP
>>>    .B MADV_PAGEOUT
>>>    See
>>>    .BR madvise (2).
>>> @@ -173,6 +177,12 @@ The caller does not have permission to access the address space of the process
>>>    .TP
>>>    .B ESRCH
>>>    The target process does not exist (i.e., it has terminated and been waited on).
>>> +.PP
>>> +See
>>> +.BR madvise (2)
>>> +for
>>> +.IR advice -specific
>>> +errors.
>>>    .SH VERSIONS
>>>    This system call first appeared in Linux 5.10.
>>>    .\" commit ecb8ac8b1f146915aa6b96449b66dd48984caacc
>>
>> --
>> <http://www.alejandro-colomar.es/>

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-11 21:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-21 22:32 [PATCH man-pages v3 0/4] Add MADV_COLLAPSE documentation Zach OKeefe
2022-10-21 22:32 ` [PATCH man-pages v3 1/4] madvise.2: update THP file/shmem documentation for +5.4 Zach OKeefe
2022-10-30 11:41   ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-10-31 16:33     ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-10-31 20:11       ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-10-21 22:32 ` [PATCH man-pages v3 2/4] madvise.2: document reliable probe for advice support Zach OKeefe
2022-10-30 11:44   ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-10-31 16:33     ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-10-31 20:21       ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-10-31 21:24         ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-10-21 22:32 ` [PATCH man-pages v3 3/4] process_madvise.2: fix capability and ptrace requirements Zach OKeefe
2022-10-30 11:50   ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-10-31 19:13     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-10-31 20:24       ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-10-31 21:25         ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-10-21 22:33 ` [PATCH man-pages v3 4/4] madvise.2: add documentation for MADV_COLLAPSE Zach OKeefe
2022-10-31 21:15   ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-10-31 23:00     ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-11-01  1:51     ` G. Branden Robinson
2022-11-01 12:12       ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-11 17:59   ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-11 21:51     ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-12-11 21:55       ` Alejandro Colomar [this message]
2022-12-11 22:37         ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-12-11 22:39           ` Alejandro Colomar

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