From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, nvdimm@lists.linux.dev,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 16/18] mm/memremap_pages: Support initializing pages to a zero reference count
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 17:13:29 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f562bd43-d9bb-af27-0d44-af7902ee15df@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <632ba212e32bb_349629451@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch>
On 9/21/22 16:45, Dan Williams wrote:
>> I'm shocked to read this - how does it make any sense?
>
> I think what happened is that since memremap_pages() historically
> produced pages with an elevated reference count that GPU drivers skipped
> taking a reference on first allocation and just passed along an elevated
> reference count page to the first user.
>
> So either we keep that assumption or update all users to be prepared for
> idle pages coming out of memremap_pages().
>
> This is all in reaction to the "set_page_count(page, 1);" in
> free_zone_device_page(). Which I am happy to get rid of but need from
> help from MEMORY_DEVICE_{PRIVATE,COHERENT} folks to react to
> memremap_pages() starting all pages at reference count 0.
>
Just one tiny thing to contribute to this difficult story: I think that
we can make this slightly clearer by saying things like this:
"The device driver is the allocator for device pages. And allocators
keep pages at a refcount == 0, until they hand out the pages in response
to allocation requests."
To me at least, this makes it easier to see why pages are 0 or > 0
refcounts. In case that helps at all.
thanks,
--
John Hubbard
NVIDIA
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-22 0:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-16 3:35 [PATCH v2 00/18] Fix the DAX-gup mistake Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:35 ` [PATCH v2 01/18] fsdax: Wait on @page not @page->_refcount Dan Williams
2022-09-20 14:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-16 3:35 ` [PATCH v2 02/18] fsdax: Use dax_page_idle() to document DAX busy page checking Dan Williams
2022-09-20 14:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-16 3:35 ` [PATCH v2 03/18] fsdax: Include unmapped inodes for page-idle detection Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:35 ` [PATCH v2 04/18] ext4: Add ext4_break_layouts() to the inode eviction path Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:35 ` [PATCH v2 05/18] xfs: Add xfs_break_layouts() " Dan Williams
[not found] ` <20220918225731.GG3600936@dread.disaster.area>
2022-09-19 16:11 ` Dan Williams
[not found] ` <20220919212959.GL3600936@dread.disaster.area>
2022-09-20 16:44 ` Dan Williams
[not found] ` <20220921221416.GT3600936@dread.disaster.area>
2022-09-21 22:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20220923001846.GX3600936@dread.disaster.area>
2022-09-23 0:41 ` Dan Williams
[not found] ` <20220923021012.GZ3600936@dread.disaster.area>
2022-09-23 9:38 ` Jan Kara
2022-09-23 23:06 ` Dan Williams
[not found] ` <20220925235407.GA3600936@dread.disaster.area>
2022-09-26 14:10 ` Jan Kara
2022-09-29 23:33 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-30 13:41 ` Jan Kara
2022-09-30 17:56 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-30 18:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-30 18:46 ` Dan Williams
2022-10-03 7:55 ` Jan Kara
2022-09-23 12:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20220926003430.GB3600936@dread.disaster.area>
2022-09-26 13:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 0:02 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-22 0:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-16 3:35 ` [PATCH v2 06/18] fsdax: Rework dax_layout_busy_page() to dax_zap_mappings() Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:35 ` [PATCH v2 07/18] fsdax: Update dax_insert_entry() calling convention to return an error Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:35 ` [PATCH v2 08/18] fsdax: Cleanup dax_associate_entry() Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 09/18] fsdax: Rework dax_insert_entry() calling convention Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 10/18] fsdax: Manage pgmap references at entry insertion and deletion Dan Williams
2022-09-21 14:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21 15:18 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-21 21:38 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-21 22:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 0:14 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-22 0:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 2:17 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-22 17:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 21:54 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-23 1:36 ` Dave Chinner
2022-09-23 2:01 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-23 13:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 16:29 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-23 17:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 19:03 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-23 19:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-27 6:07 ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-27 12:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 11/18] devdax: Minor warning fixups Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 12/18] devdax: Move address_space helpers to the DAX core Dan Williams
2022-09-27 6:20 ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-29 22:38 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 13/18] dax: Prep mapping helpers for compound pages Dan Williams
2022-09-21 14:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21 15:19 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 14/18] devdax: add PUD support to the DAX mapping infrastructure Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 15/18] devdax: Use dax_insert_entry() + dax_delete_mapping_entry() Dan Williams
2022-09-21 14:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21 15:48 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-21 22:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 0:15 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 16/18] mm/memremap_pages: Support initializing pages to a zero reference count Dan Williams
2022-09-21 15:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21 23:45 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-22 0:03 ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-22 0:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 0:34 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-22 1:36 ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-22 2:34 ` Dan Williams
2022-09-26 6:17 ` Alistair Popple
2022-09-22 0:13 ` John Hubbard [this message]
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 17/18] fsdax: Delete put_devmap_managed_page_refs() Dan Williams
2022-09-16 3:36 ` [PATCH v2 18/18] mm/gup: Drop DAX pgmap accounting Dan Williams
2022-09-20 14:29 ` [PATCH v2 00/18] Fix the DAX-gup mistake Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-20 16:50 ` Dan Williams
2022-11-09 0:20 ` Andrew Morton
2022-11-09 11:38 ` Jan Kara
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