From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
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Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH v7 00/10] Small-sized THP for anonymous memory
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 15:34:50 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f4c3972e-f341-4d15-baa2-bedda8d7a8ad@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <137902b6-24dc-4d51-9be2-6f94aa9dbc3a@redhat.com>
On 28/11/2023 14:09, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 28.11.23 13:15, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>> On 28/11/2023 08:48, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed. We are bikeshedding here. But if we really can't swallow "small-sized
>>>>> THP" then perhaps the most efficient way to move this forwards is to review
>>>>> the
>>>>> documentation (where "small-sized THP" appears twice in order to differentiate
>>>>> from PMD-sized THP) - its in patch 3. Perhaps it will be easier to come up
>>>>> with
>>>>> a good description in the context of those prose? Then once we have that,
>>>>> hopefully a term will fall out that I'll update the commit logs with.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will see you over in patch 3, then. I've already looked at it and am going
>>>> to suggest a long and a short name. The long name is for use in comments and
>>>> documentation, and the short name is for variable fragments:
>>>>
>>>> Long name: "pte-mapped THPs"
>>>> Short names: pte_thp, or pte-thp
>>>
>>> The issue is that any THP can be pte-mapped, even a PMD-sized THP. However, the
>>> "natural" way to map a PMD-sized THP is using a PMD.
>>>
>>
>> How about we just stop trying to come up with a term for the "small-sized THP"
>> vs "PMD-sized THP" and instead invent a name that covers ALL THP:
>>
>> "multi-size THP" vs "PMD-sized THP".
>>
>> Then in the docs we can talk about how multi-size THP introduces the ability to
>> allocate memory in blocks that are bigger than a base page but smaller than
>> traditional PMD-size, in increments of a power-of-2 number of pages.
>
> So you're thinking of something like "multi-size THP" as a feature name, and
> stating that for now we limit it to <= PMD size. mTHP would be the short name?
Sure.
>
> For the stats, we'd document that "AnonHugePages" and friends only count
> traditional PMD-sized THP for historical reasons -- and that AnonHugePages
> should have been called AnonHugePmdMapped (which we could still add as an alias
> and document why AnonHugePages is weird).
Sounds good to me.
>
> Regarding new stats, maybe an interface that indicates the actual sizes would be
> best. As discussed, extending the existing single-large-file statistics might
> not be possible and we'd have to come up with a new interface, that maybe
> completely lacks "AnonHugePages" and directly goes for the individual sizes.
Yes, but I think we are agreed this is future work.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-28 15:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-22 16:29 Ryan Roberts
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 01/10] mm: Allow deferred splitting of arbitrary anon large folios Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27 8:27 ` Barry Song
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 02/10] mm: Non-pmd-mappable, large folios for folio_add_new_anon_rmap() Ryan Roberts
2023-11-24 17:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-27 10:34 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27 4:36 ` Barry Song
2023-11-27 11:30 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 03/10] mm: thp: Introduce per-size thp sysfs interface Ryan Roberts
2023-11-29 3:42 ` John Hubbard
2023-11-29 8:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-29 11:05 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-29 19:40 ` John Hubbard
2023-11-30 12:14 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 04/10] mm: thp: Support allocation of anonymous small-sized THP Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27 3:41 ` Barry Song
2023-11-27 11:28 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 05/10] selftests/mm/kugepaged: Restore thp settings at exit Ryan Roberts
2023-11-23 5:54 ` Alistair Popple
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 06/10] selftests/mm: Factor out thp settings management Ryan Roberts
2023-11-23 6:07 ` Alistair Popple
2023-11-27 12:22 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 07/10] selftests/mm: Support small-sized THP interface in thp_settings Ryan Roberts
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 08/10] selftests/mm/khugepaged: Enlighten for small-sized THP Ryan Roberts
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 09/10] selftests/mm/cow: Generalize do_run_with_thp() helper Ryan Roberts
2023-11-24 17:48 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-27 10:48 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27 13:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-27 14:11 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27 14:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-22 16:29 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 10/10] selftests/mm/cow: Add tests for anonymous small-sized THP Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27 14:02 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-27 14:50 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-27 14:54 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-22 16:32 ` [RESEND PATCH v7 00/10] Small-sized THP for anonymous memory David Hildenbrand
2023-11-23 6:28 ` John Hubbard
2023-11-23 15:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-23 16:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-23 16:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-23 16:50 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-24 1:14 ` John Hubbard
2023-11-24 1:34 ` Zi Yan
2023-11-24 9:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-24 9:56 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-24 15:13 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-24 15:23 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-24 15:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-24 15:53 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-24 17:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-27 8:20 ` Alistair Popple
2023-11-27 10:31 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-28 2:09 ` John Hubbard
2023-11-28 8:48 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-28 12:15 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-28 14:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-28 15:34 ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2023-11-28 16:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-11-28 18:39 ` John Hubbard
2023-11-29 9:59 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-29 19:46 ` John Hubbard
2023-11-28 4:10 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-28 4:05 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-28 8:47 ` David Hildenbrand
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