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From: Xin Li <xin@zytor.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv6 01/16] x86/cpu: Enumerate the LASS feature bits
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 22:11:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f3dbf693-8c88-4736-9ec9-83bedc097c2b@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5529aa92-191d-4120-a005-28fe5c209a4f@zytor.com>

On 6/23/2025 9:57 PM, Xin Li wrote:
> On 6/23/2025 7:04 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> On June 23, 2025 10:40:59 AM PDT, Xin Li <xin@zytor.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/20/2025 5:50 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>>> On 2025-06-20 17:45, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I simply hate adding a disabled feature that depends on !X86_64;
>>>>>> x86_64 has a broad scope, and new CPU features are often 
>>>>>> intentionally
>>>>>> not enabled for 32-bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (X86_DISABLED_FEATURE_PCID is the only one before LASS)
>>>>>
>>>>> More importantly, it is wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 32-bit build can depend on this feature not existing, therefore 
>>>>> it SHOULD be listed as a disabled feature.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok, that was word salad. What I meant was that the original patch is 
>>>> correct, and we SHOULD have this as a disabled feature.
>>>
>>> Agreed!
>>>
>>>> The reason is that it reduces the need to explicitly test for 32/64 
>>>> bits for features that don't exist on 32 bits. When they are flagged 
>>>> as disabled, they get filtered out *at compile time*.
>>>
>>> It's better to make it depend on X86_32 directly rather than !X86_64:
>>>
>>> config X86_DISABLED_FEATURE_LASS
>>>     def_bool y
>>>     depends on X86_32
>>>
>>>
>>> But the disabled feature list due to lack of 32-bit enabling will keep
>>> growing until we remove 32-bit kernel code.
>>>
>>> Wondering should we bother enforcing cpuid_deps[] on 32-bit?
>>>
>>> IOW, turn off the feature when its dependency isn’t satisfied on 32b-it;
>>> don’t just throw a warning and hope for the best.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>     Xin
>>>
>>
>> We should have the dependencies enforced; in fact, preferably we would 
>> enforce them at build time as well.
>>
>>
> 
> Yeah, sounds something we can do later :)
> 

We could introduce a new Kconfig file at

     arch/x86/Kconfig.cpufeatures.disabled_on_32bit

to track all features disabled due to lack of 32-bit support.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-24  5:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20250620135325.3300848-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
     [not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-9-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 14:47   ` [PATCHv6 08/16] x86/traps: Consolidate user fixups in exc_general_protection() Dave Hansen
     [not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-14-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:20   ` [PATCHv6 13/16] x86/traps: Handle LASS thrown #SS Xin Li
2025-06-20 17:53     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
     [not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-2-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:25   ` [PATCHv6 01/16] x86/cpu: Enumerate the LASS feature bits Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 15:36   ` Xin Li
2025-06-20 17:31     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 23:46       ` Xin Li
2025-06-21  0:45         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-21  0:50           ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-23 17:40             ` Xin Li
2025-06-24  2:04               ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-24  4:57                 ` Xin Li
2025-06-24  5:11                   ` Xin Li [this message]
2025-06-20 16:02   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-06-20 16:12     ` Xin Li
2025-06-20 16:16       ` Randy Dunlap
2025-06-20 16:35   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-20 17:33     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 18:29       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-23  8:17         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-23 10:21           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-23 13:42             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-26 15:18               ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-26 16:07                 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-26 17:21                   ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-27 10:25                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-27 10:43                       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-06-27 13:57                       ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 18:14   ` Sohil Mehta
2025-06-20 18:24     ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 23:10       ` Sohil Mehta
2025-06-23 16:25       ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-23 16:42         ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-23 23:13           ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-23 23:36             ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-24  0:10               ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-24  2:03                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-25 18:51     ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-4-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:33   ` [PATCHv6 03/16] x86/alternatives: Disable LASS when patching kernel alternatives Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 17:18     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
     [not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-5-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:35   ` [PATCHv6 04/16] x86/efi: Move runtime service initialization to arch/x86 Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 17:42     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-20 15:38 ` [PATCHv6 00/16] x86: Enable Linear Address Space Separation support Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 22:04   ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-20 22:29     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-20 22:43     ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-20 22:46     ` Dave Hansen
     [not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-6-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:44   ` [PATCHv6 05/16] x86/cpu: Defer CR pinning setup until after EFI initialization Dave Hansen
     [not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-7-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 15:55   ` [PATCHv6 06/16] efi: Disable LASS around set_virtual_address_map() EFI call Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 17:50     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
     [not found] ` <20250620135325.3300848-8-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
2025-06-20 18:43   ` [PATCHv6 07/16] x86/vsyscall: Reorganize the #PF emulation code Dave Hansen
2025-06-20 23:08     ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-20 23:18       ` Sohil Mehta
2025-06-20 23:29         ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-20 23:21       ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-21  3:35         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-06-23 12:41         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-23 12:46           ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-23 15:32           ` Dave Hansen
2025-06-23 15:45             ` Andrew Cooper
2025-06-24 11:37             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-06-24 14:11               ` Dave Hansen

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