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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Gladyshev Ilya <gladyshev.ilya1@h-partners.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	Gorbunov Ivan <gorbunov.ivan@h-partners.com>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm: implement page refcount locking via dedicated bit
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2026 20:16:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f3c411e1-062e-4494-b7e9-8056f346effb@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6bf6eba6e2e6a74e2045a3bd08d58fd91bece7be.1772120327.git.gladyshev.ilya1@h-partners.com>


This all made mu brain hurt a little :)

>  
>  /**
> @@ -176,6 +181,9 @@ static inline int page_ref_sub_and_test(struct page *page, int nr)
>  {
>  	int ret = atomic_sub_and_test(nr, &page->_refcount);
>  
> +	if (ret)
> +		ret = !atomic_cmpxchg_relaxed(&page->_refcount, 0, PAGEREF_LOCKED_BIT);
> +

It took me a while to figure out why this can't be just an atomic_or():
even though concurrent page_ref_add_unless_zero() would see a 0 after
incrementing it to 1 to back off, there could be yet another concurrent
page_ref_add_unless_zero() that would see the transition from 1 to 2 and
continue.

What is the performance impact on doing the additional
atomic_cmpxchg_relaxed() whenever we free a page, in particular, for
anonymous memory where we mostly have just a single reference that we
drop during munmap() etc?

>  	if (page_ref_tracepoint_active(page_ref_mod_and_test))
>  		__page_ref_mod_and_test(page, -nr, ret);
>  	return ret;
> @@ -204,6 +212,9 @@ static inline int page_ref_dec_and_test(struct page *page)
>  {
>  	int ret = atomic_dec_and_test(&page->_refcount);
>  
> +	if (ret)
> +		ret = !atomic_cmpxchg_relaxed(&page->_refcount, 0, PAGEREF_LOCKED_BIT);
> +
>  	if (page_ref_tracepoint_active(page_ref_mod_and_test))
>  		__page_ref_mod_and_test(page, -1, ret);
>  	return ret;
> @@ -228,14 +239,23 @@ static inline int folio_ref_dec_return(struct folio *folio)
>  	return page_ref_dec_return(&folio->page);
>  }
>  
> +#define _PAGEREF_LOCKED_LIMIT	((1 << 30) | PAGEREF_LOCKED_BIT)
> +
>  static inline bool page_ref_add_unless_zero(struct page *page, int nr)
>  {
>  	bool ret = false;
> +	int val;
>  
>  	rcu_read_lock();
>  	/* avoid writing to the vmemmap area being remapped */
> -	if (page_count_writable(page))
> -		ret = atomic_add_unless(&page->_refcount, nr, 0);
> +	if (page_count_writable(page)) {
> +		val = atomic_add_return(nr, &page->_refcount);
> +		ret = !(val & PAGEREF_LOCKED_BIT);
> +
> +		/* Undo atomic_add() if counter is locked and scary big */
> +		while (unlikely((unsigned int)val >= _PAGEREF_LOCKED_LIMIT))
> +			val = atomic_cmpxchg_relaxed(&page->_refcount, val, PAGEREF_LOCKED_BIT);

I assume we can't do an atomic_dec(), because we might have concurrent
unfreezing (or similar things) happening that overwrote whatever was in
there.

Is it really correct to replace _PAGEREF_LOCKED_LIMIT by
PAGEREF_LOCKED_BIT, dropping some unrelated references? I assume the
reasoning is that we treat any references with PAGEREF_LOCKED_BIT set as
irrelevant and can get overwritten any time.


I was wondering is whether page_ref_freeze() could actually leave the
references set, and only set the PAGEREF_LOCKED_BIT bit, whereby
page_ref_unfreeze() would only clear the PAGEREF_LOCKED_BIT bit.

Similarly, the set_page_refcounted() could add a reference and clear the
PAGEREF_LOCKED_BIT. That'd be more expensive on the allocation path ...
and not sure if that would really help to turn this
atomic_cmpxchg_relaxed() into an simpler atomic_dec() my brain could
more easily understand :)


I think this patch needs a lot more documentation around what the
PAGEREF_LOCKED_BIT means, and how this interacts with e.g., the
set_page_count() in set_page_refcounted().

In general, I like this!

-- 
Cheers,

David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-04 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-26 16:27 [PATCH 0/1] mm: improve folio refcount scalability Gladyshev Ilya
2026-02-26 16:27 ` [PATCH 1/1] mm: implement page refcount locking via dedicated bit Gladyshev Ilya
2026-03-04 19:16   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-02-28 22:19 ` [PATCH 0/1] mm: improve folio refcount scalability Andrew Morton
2026-03-01  3:27   ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-01 18:52     ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-01 20:26       ` Pedro Falcato
2026-03-01 21:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-04 17:34           ` Linus Torvalds

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