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From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, hughd@google.com
Cc: ziy@nvidia.com, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com,
	Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, npache@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	dev.jain@arm.com, baohua@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] mm: shmem: disallow hugepages if the system-wide shmem THP sysfs settings are disabled
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 09:52:50 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f3c0853d-0b26-49ef-82b2-df1f5163dd4b@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <924f82b1-0eb7-47e0-b7d4-5dd314df18a0@redhat.com>



On 2025/6/23 21:59, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 23.06.25 10:28, Baolin Wang wrote:
>> When invoking thp_vma_allowable_orders(), if the TVA_ENFORCE_SYSFS 
>> flag is not
>> specified, we will ignore the THP sysfs settings. And the 
>> MADV_COLLAPSE is an
>> example of such a case.
>>
>> The MADV_COLLAPSE will ignore the system-wide shmem THP sysfs 
>> settings, which
>> means that even though we have disabled the shmem THP configuration, 
>> MADV_COLLAPSE
>> will still attempt to collapse into a shmem THP. This violates the 
>> rule we have
>> agreed upon: never means never.
>>
>> Another rule for madvise, referring to David's suggestion: “allowing 
>> for collapsing
>> in a VM without VM_HUGEPAGE in the "madvise" mode would be fine".
>>
>> To fix the MADV_COLLAPSE issue for shmem, then the current strategy 
>> should be:
>>
>> For shmem, if none of always, madvise, within_size, and inherit have 
>> enabled
>> PMD-sized THP, then MADV_COLLAPSE will be prohibited from collapsing 
>> PMD-sized THP.
> 
> I assume we could rephrase that to "For shmem, if "shmem_enabled" is set 
> to either "none" or "deny", then MADV_COLLAPSE will be prohibited from 
> collapsing."

Yes. Setting 'deny' will also prevent MADV_COLLAPSE(), and there is no 
'none' option for 'shmem_enabled'. Will update the commit mesasge to 
make it clear.


      reply	other threads:[~2025-06-24  1:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-23  8:28 [PATCH v3 0/2] fix MADV_COLLAPSE issue if THP " Baolin Wang
2025-06-23  8:28 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] mm: huge_memory: disallow hugepages if the system-wide THP sysfs " Baolin Wang
2025-06-23 10:26   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-24  1:45     ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-23 11:08   ` Barry Song
2025-06-24  1:44     ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-23 13:54   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-24  1:48     ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-24  8:29       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-24  9:20         ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-23 14:39   ` Zi Yan
2025-06-24  8:41   ` Dev Jain
2025-06-24  9:57     ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-24 14:08       ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-24 14:42         ` Dev Jain
2025-06-23  8:28 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] mm: shmem: disallow hugepages if the system-wide shmem " Baolin Wang
2025-06-23 10:45   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-23 13:59   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-24  1:52     ` Baolin Wang [this message]

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