From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: jannh@google.com, hughd@google.com, willy@infradead.org,
muchun.song@linux.dev, vbabka@kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, peterx@redhat.com, mgorman@suse.de,
catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, luto@kernel.org,
peterz@infradead.org, x86@kernel.org, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
zokeefe@google.com, rientjes@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/9] mm: introduce skip_none_ptes()
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 18:34:36 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f3adf382-d252-4007-b8ca-c557814cb5c8@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <995804f4-b658-44b2-bb40-c84b8a322616@redhat.com>
On 2024/11/18 17:29, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 18.11.24 04:35, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2024/11/15 22:59, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> On 15.11.24 15:41, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2024/11/15 18:22, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>>>>> *nr_skip = nr;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and then:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> zap_pte_range
>>>>>>>> --> nr = do_zap_pte_range(tlb, vma, pte, addr, end, details,
>>>>>>>> &skip_nr,
>>>>>>>> rss, &force_flush, &force_break);
>>>>>>>> if (can_reclaim_pt) {
>>>>>>>> none_nr += count_pte_none(pte, nr);
>>>>>>>> none_nr += nr_skip;
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. I did not look closely at the patch that adds the counting of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Got it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pte_none though (to digest why it is required :) ).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because 'none_nr == PTRS_PER_PTE' is used in patch #7 to detect
>>>>>> empty PTE page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, so the problem is that "nr" would be "all processed entries" but
>>>>> there are cases where we "process an entry but not zap it".
>>>>>
>>>>> What you really only want to know is "was any entry not zapped", which
>>>>> could be a simple input boolean variable passed into do_zap_pte_range?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because as soon as any entry was processed but no zapped, you can
>>>>> immediately give up on reclaiming that table.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, we can set can_reclaim_pt to false when a !pte_none() entry is
>>>> found in count_pte_none().
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if well need cont_pte_none(), but I'll have to take a look
>>> at your new patch to see how this fits together with doing the pte_none
>>> detection+skipping in do_zap_pte_range().
>>>
>>> I was wondering if you cannot simply avoid the additional scanning and
>>> simply set "can_reclaim_pt" if you skip a zap.
>>
>> Maybe we can return the information whether the zap was skipped from
>> zap_present_ptes() and zap_nonpresent_ptes() through parameters like I
>> did in [PATCH v1 3/7] and [PATCH v1 4/7].
>>
>> In theory, we can detect empty PTE pages in the following two ways:
>>
>> 1) If no zap is skipped, it means that all pte entries have been
>> zap, and the PTE page must be empty.
>> 2) If all pte entries are detected to be none, then the PTE page is
>> empty.
>>
>> In the error case, 1) may cause non-empty PTE pages to be reclaimed
>> (which is unacceptable), while the 2) will at most cause empty PTE pages
>> to not be reclaimed.
>>
>> So the most reliable and efficient method may be:
>>
>> a. If there is a zap that is skipped, stop scanning and do not reclaim
>> the PTE page;
>> b. Otherwise, as now, detect the empty PTE page through count_pte_none()
>
> Is there a need for count_pte_none() that I am missing?
When any_skipped == false, at least add VM_BUG_ON() to recheck none ptes.
>
> Assume we have
>
> nr = do_zap_pte_range(&any_skipped)
>
>
> If "nr" is the number of processed entries (including pte_none()), and
> "any_skipped" is set whenever we skipped to zap a !pte_none entry, we
> can detect what we need, no?
>
> If any_skipped == false after the call, we now have "nr" pte_none()
> entries. -> We can continue trying to reclaim
I prefer that "nr" should not include pte_none().
Something like this:
nr = do_zap_pte_range(&any_skipped);
if (can_reclaim_pt) {
VM_BUG_ON(!any_skipped && count_pte_none(nr) == nr);
if (any_skipped)
can_reclaim_pt = false;
}
nr: the number of processed entries (excluding pte_none())
any_skipped: set whenever we skipped to zap a !pte_none entry
```
do_zap_pte_range
--> pte_t ptent = ptep_get(pte);
int max_nr = (end - addr) / PAGE_SIZE;
/* Skip all consecutive pte_none(). */
if (pte_none(ptent)) {
int nr;
for (nr = 1; nr < max_nr; nr++) {
ptent = ptep_get(pte + nr);
if (!pte_none(ptent))
break;
}
max_nr -= nr;
if (!max_nr)
return 0;
pte += nr;
addr += nr * PAGE_SIZE;
}
if (pte_present(ptent))
return zap_present_ptes(tlb, vma, pte, ptent, max_nr,
addr, details, rss, force_flush,
force_break, any_skipped);
return zap_nonpresent_ptes(tlb, vma, pte, ptent, max_nr, addr,
details, rss, any_skipped);
```
>
> If any_skipped == true, we have at least one !pte_none() entry among the
> "nr" entries. -> We cannot and must not reclaim.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-18 10:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-14 6:59 [PATCH v3 0/9] synchronously scan and reclaim empty user PTE pages Qi Zheng
2024-11-14 6:59 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] mm: khugepaged: recheck pmd state in retract_page_tables() Qi Zheng
2024-11-14 6:59 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] mm: userfaultfd: recheck dst_pmd entry in move_pages_pte() Qi Zheng
2024-11-14 6:59 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] mm: introduce zap_nonpresent_ptes() Qi Zheng
2024-11-14 6:59 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] mm: introduce skip_none_ptes() Qi Zheng
2024-11-14 8:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-14 9:20 ` Qi Zheng
2024-11-14 12:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-14 12:51 ` Qi Zheng
2024-11-14 21:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-15 3:03 ` Qi Zheng
2024-11-15 10:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-15 14:41 ` Qi Zheng
2024-11-15 14:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-18 3:35 ` Qi Zheng
2024-11-18 9:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-18 10:34 ` Qi Zheng [this message]
2024-11-18 10:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-18 10:56 ` Qi Zheng
2024-11-18 10:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-18 11:13 ` Qi Zheng
2024-11-19 9:55 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-19 10:03 ` Qi Zheng
2024-11-14 6:59 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] mm: introduce do_zap_pte_range() Qi Zheng
2024-11-14 6:59 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] mm: make zap_pte_range() handle full within-PMD range Qi Zheng
2024-11-14 6:59 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] mm: pgtable: try to reclaim empty PTE page in madvise(MADV_DONTNEED) Qi Zheng
2024-11-14 6:59 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] x86: mm: free page table pages by RCU instead of semi RCU Qi Zheng
2024-11-14 7:00 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] x86: select ARCH_SUPPORTS_PT_RECLAIM if X86_64 Qi Zheng
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