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From: Shiyang Ruan <ruansy.fnst@fujitsu.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, nvdimm@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: willy@infradead.org, jack@suse.cz, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	djwong@kernel.org, mcgrof@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 2/2] mm, pmem, xfs: Introduce MF_MEM_REMOVE for unbind
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 16:36:28 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f28c7eca-0eb5-7338-2362-93d10a16cd64@fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <64d18cd6c6e09_5ea6e294fb@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch>



在 2023/8/8 8:31, Dan Williams 写道:
> Shiyang Ruan wrote:
>> This patch is inspired by Dan's "mm, dax, pmem: Introduce
>> dev_pagemap_failure()"[1].  With the help of dax_holder and
>> ->notify_failure() mechanism, the pmem driver is able to ask filesystem
>> on it to unmap all files in use, and notify processes who are using
>> those files.
>>
>> Call trace:
>> trigger unbind
>>   -> unbind_store()
>>    -> ... (skip)
>>     -> devres_release_all()
>>      -> kill_dax()
>>       -> dax_holder_notify_failure(dax_dev, 0, U64_MAX, MF_MEM_PRE_REMOVE)
>>        -> xfs_dax_notify_failure()
>>        `-> freeze_super()             // freeze (kernel call)
>>        `-> do xfs rmap
>>        ` -> mf_dax_kill_procs()
>>        `  -> collect_procs_fsdax()    // all associated processes
>>        `  -> unmap_and_kill()
>>        ` -> invalidate_inode_pages2_range() // drop file's cache
>>        `-> thaw_super()               // thaw (both kernel & user call)
>>
>> Introduce MF_MEM_PRE_REMOVE to let filesystem know this is a remove
>> event.  Use the exclusive freeze/thaw[2] to lock the filesystem to prevent
>> new dax mapping from being created.  Do not shutdown filesystem directly
>> if configuration is not supported, or if failure range includes metadata
>> area.  Make sure all files and processes(not only the current progress)
>> are handled correctly.  Also drop the cache of associated files before
>> pmem is removed.
> 
> I would say more about why this is important for DAX users. Yes, the
> devm_memremap_pages() vs get_user_pages() infrastructure can be improved
> if it has a mechanism to revoke all pages that it has handed out for a
> given device, but that's not an end user visible effect.
> 
> The end user impact needs to be clear. Is this for existing deployed
> pmem where a user accidentally removes a device and wants failures and
> process killing instead of hangs?
> 
> The reason Linux has got along without this for so long is because pmem
> is difficult to remove (and with the sunset of Optane, difficult to
> acquire). One motivation to pursue this is CXL where hotplug is better
> defined and use cases like dynamic capacity devices where making forward
> progress to kill processes is better than hanging.
> 
> It would help to have an example of what happens without this patch.
> 
>>
>> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/161604050314.1463742.14151665140035795571.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com/
>> [2]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-xfs/168688010689.860947.1788875898367401950.stgit@frogsfrogsfrogs/
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Shiyang Ruan <ruansy.fnst@fujitsu.com>
>> ---
>>   drivers/dax/super.c         |  3 +-
>>   fs/xfs/xfs_notify_failure.c | 86 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>>   include/linux/mm.h          |  1 +
>>   mm/memory-failure.c         | 17 ++++++--
>>   4 files changed, 96 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/dax/super.c b/drivers/dax/super.c
>> index c4c4728a36e4..2e1a35e82fce 100644
>> --- a/drivers/dax/super.c
>> +++ b/drivers/dax/super.c
>> @@ -323,7 +323,8 @@ void kill_dax(struct dax_device *dax_dev)
>>   		return;
>>   
>>   	if (dax_dev->holder_data != NULL)
>> -		dax_holder_notify_failure(dax_dev, 0, U64_MAX, 0);
>> +		dax_holder_notify_failure(dax_dev, 0, U64_MAX,
>> +				MF_MEM_PRE_REMOVE);
> 
> The motivation in the original proposal was to convey the death of
> large extents to memory_failure(). However, that proposal predated your
> mf_dax_kill_procs() approach. With mf_dax_kill_procs() the need for a
> new bulk memory_failure() API is gone.
> 
> This is where the end user impact needs to be clear. It seems that
> without this patch the filesystem may assume failure while the device is
> already present, but that seems ok. The goal is forward progress after a
> mistake not necessarily minimizing damage after a mistake. The fact that
> the current code is not as gentle could be considered a feature because
> graceful shutdown should always unmount before unplug, and if one
> unplugs before unmount it is already understood that they get to keep
> the pieces.
> 
> Because the driver ->remove() callback can not enforce that the device
> is still present it seems unnecessary to optimize for the case where the
> filesystem is the device is being removed from an actively mounted
> filesystem, but the device is still present.
> 
> The dax_holder_notify_failure(dax_dev, 0, U64_MAX) is sufficient to say
> "userspace failed to umount before hardware eject, stop trying to access
> this range", rather than "try to finish up in this range, but it might
> already be too late".

Hi Dan,

I added an simple example of "accidentally remove pmem device" and its 
consequences of not having this patch in the latest version.  Please review.


--
Thanks,
Ruan.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-23  8:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-29  8:16 [PATCH v12 0/2] " Shiyang Ruan
2023-06-29  8:16 ` [PATCH v12 1/2] xfs: fix the calculation for "end" and "length" Shiyang Ruan
2023-06-29  8:16 ` [PATCH v12 2/2] mm, pmem, xfs: Introduce MF_MEM_REMOVE for unbind Shiyang Ruan
2023-06-29 12:02   ` kernel test robot
2023-07-14  9:07   ` Shiyang Ruan
2023-07-14 14:18     ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-07-20  1:50       ` Shiyang Ruan
2023-07-29 10:01         ` Shiyang Ruan
2023-07-29 15:15           ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-07-29 15:15   ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-07-31  9:36     ` Shiyang Ruan
2023-08-01  3:25       ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-08-03 10:44         ` Shiyang Ruan
2023-08-08  0:31   ` Dan Williams
2023-08-23  8:36     ` Shiyang Ruan [this message]
2023-08-23  8:17   ` [PATCH v13] mm, pmem, xfs: Introduce MF_MEM_PRE_REMOVE " Shiyang Ruan
2023-08-23 23:36     ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-08-24  9:41       ` Shiyang Ruan
2023-08-24 23:57         ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-08-25  3:52           ` Shiyang Ruan
2023-08-26  0:17             ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-08-28  6:57   ` [PATCH v14] " Shiyang Ruan
2023-08-30 15:34     ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-09-27  8:17     ` Dan Williams
2023-09-27  9:18       ` Shiyang Ruan
2023-09-28 10:32     ` [PATCH v15] " Shiyang Ruan
2023-09-29 18:31       ` Dan Williams
2023-10-01  1:43       ` kernel test robot
2023-10-02 11:57         ` Shiyang Ruan
2023-10-20  9:56       ` Chandan Babu R
2023-10-20 15:40         ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-10-23  6:40           ` Chandan Babu R
2023-10-23  7:26             ` Shiyang Ruan
2023-10-23 12:21               ` Chandan Babu R
2023-10-23  7:20       ` [PATCH v15.1] " Shiyang Ruan
2024-01-11 22:24 ` [PATCH v12 0/2] mm, pmem, xfs: Introduce MF_MEM_REMOVE " Bill O'Donnell
2024-01-12  1:56   ` Shiyang Ruan

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