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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>,
	Nikita Kalyazin <kalyazin@amazon.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Ujwal Kundur <ujwal.kundur@gmail.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: Introduce vm_uffd_ops API
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2025 11:36:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f1da3505-f17f-4829-80c1-696b1d99057d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250926211650.525109-2-peterx@redhat.com>

On 26.09.25 23:16, Peter Xu wrote:
> Currently, most of the userfaultfd features are implemented directly in the
> core mm.  It will invoke VMA specific functions whenever necessary.  So far
> it is fine because it almost only interacts with shmem and hugetlbfs.
> 
> Introduce a generic userfaultfd API extension for vm_operations_struct,
> so that any code that implements vm_operations_struct (including kernel
> modules that can be compiled separately from the kernel core) can support
> userfaults without modifying the core files.
> 
> With this API applied, if a module wants to support userfaultfd, the
> module should only need to properly define vm_uffd_ops and hook it to
> vm_operations_struct, instead of changing anything in core mm.
> 
> This API will not work for anonymous memory. Handling of userfault
> operations for anonymous memory remains unchanged in core mm.
> 
> Due to a security concern while reviewing older versions of this series
> [1], uffd_copy() will be temprorarily removed.  IOW, so far MISSING-capable
> memory types can only be hard-coded and implemented in mm/.  It would also
> affect UFFDIO_COPY and UFFDIO_ZEROPAGE.  Other functions should still be
> able to be provided from vm_uffd_ops.
> 
> Introduces the API only so that existing userfaultfd users can be moved
> over without breaking them.
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250627154655.2085903-1-peterx@redhat.com/
> 

Looks much better with the uffdio_copy stuff removed for now.

> Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
> ---
>   include/linux/mm.h            |  9 +++++++++
>   include/linux/userfaultfd_k.h | 37 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>   2 files changed, 46 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
> index 6b6c6980f46c2..8afb93387e2c6 100644
> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
> @@ -620,6 +620,8 @@ struct vm_fault {
>   					 */
>   };
>   
> +struct vm_uffd_ops;
> +
>   /*
>    * These are the virtual MM functions - opening of an area, closing and
>    * unmapping it (needed to keep files on disk up-to-date etc), pointer
> @@ -705,6 +707,13 @@ struct vm_operations_struct {
>   	struct page *(*find_normal_page)(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>   					 unsigned long addr);
>   #endif /* CONFIG_FIND_NORMAL_PAGE */
> +#ifdef CONFIG_USERFAULTFD
> +	/*
> +	 * Userfaultfd related ops.  Modules need to define this to support
> +	 * userfaultfd.
> +	 */
> +	const struct vm_uffd_ops *userfaultfd_ops;
> +#endif
>   };
>   
>   #ifdef CONFIG_NUMA_BALANCING
> diff --git a/include/linux/userfaultfd_k.h b/include/linux/userfaultfd_k.h
> index c0e716aec26aa..b1949d8611238 100644
> --- a/include/linux/userfaultfd_k.h
> +++ b/include/linux/userfaultfd_k.h
> @@ -92,6 +92,43 @@ enum mfill_atomic_mode {
>   	NR_MFILL_ATOMIC_MODES,
>   };
>   
> +/* VMA userfaultfd operations */
> +struct vm_uffd_ops {
> +	/**
> +	 * @uffd_features: features supported in bitmask.
> +	 *
> +	 * When the ops is defined, the driver must set non-zero features
> +	 * to be a subset (or all) of: VM_UFFD_MISSING|WP|MINOR.
> +	 *
> +	 * NOTE: VM_UFFD_MISSING is still only supported under mm/ so far.
> +	 */
> +	unsigned long uffd_features;

This variable name is a bit confusing , because it's all about vma 
flags, not uffd features. Just reading the variable, I would rather 
connect it to things like UFFD_FEATURE_WP_UNPOPULATED.

As currently used for VM flags, maybe you should call this

	unsigned long uffd_vm_flags;

or sth like that.

I briefly wondered whether we could use actual UFFD_FEATURE_* here, but 
they are rather unsuited for this case here (e.g., different feature 
flags for hugetlb support/shmem support etc).

But reading "uffd_ioctls" below, can't we derive the suitable vma flags 
from the supported ioctls?

_UFFDIO_COPY | _UFDIO_ZEROPAGE -> VM_UFFD_MISSING
_UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT -> VM_UFFD_WP
_UFFDIO_CONTINUE -> VM_UFFD_MINOR

> +	/**
> +	 * @uffd_ioctls: ioctls supported in bitmask.
> +	 *
> +	 * Userfaultfd ioctls supported by the module.  Below will always
> +	 * be supported by default whenever a module provides vm_uffd_ops:
> +	 *
> +	 *   _UFFDIO_API, _UFFDIO_REGISTER, _UFFDIO_UNREGISTER, _UFFDIO_WAKE
> +	 *
> +	 * The module needs to provide all the rest optionally supported
> +	 * ioctls.  For example, when VM_UFFD_MINOR is supported,
> +	 * _UFFDIO_CONTINUE must be supported as an ioctl.
> +	 */
> +	unsigned long uffd_ioctls;
> +	/**
> +	 * uffd_get_folio: Handler to resolve UFFDIO_CONTINUE request.

Just wondering if we could incorporate the "continue" / "minor" aspect 
into the callback name.

uffd_minor_get_folio / uffd_continue_get_folio

Or do you see use of that callback in the context of other uffd features?

-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-30  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-26 21:16 [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/userfaultfd: modulize memory types Peter Xu
2025-09-26 21:16 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: Introduce vm_uffd_ops API Peter Xu
2025-09-30  9:36   ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-09-30 10:07     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-30 10:18       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-30 18:39         ` Peter Xu
2025-09-30 18:48     ` Peter Xu
2025-09-30 19:19       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-30 20:35         ` Peter Xu
2025-10-01 13:58           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-01 14:35             ` Peter Xu
2025-10-01 14:39               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-03 14:02                 ` Peter Xu
2025-10-06 13:38                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-06 19:06                   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-10-06 21:02                     ` Peter Xu
2025-10-07  3:31                       ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-10-07 13:51                         ` Peter Xu
2025-10-07 16:03                           ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-10-07 16:14                             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-07 16:47                               ` Peter Xu
2025-10-07 18:46                                 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-10-07 19:41                                   ` Peter Xu
2025-10-07 20:23                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-07 20:25                                     ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-10-07 20:40                                       ` Peter Xu
2025-09-26 21:16 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm/shmem: Support " Peter Xu
2025-09-26 21:16 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm/hugetlb: " Peter Xu
2025-09-26 21:16 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: Apply vm_uffd_ops API to core mm Peter Xu
2025-09-30  9:23   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-30 18:52     ` Peter Xu
2025-09-30 19:49 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] mm/userfaultfd: modulize memory types Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-30 20:45   ` Peter Xu

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