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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Aishwarya Rambhadran <aishwarya.rambhadran@arm.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
	Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	kasan-dev@googlegroups.com,
	kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] slab: replace cpu (partial) slabs with sheaves
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2026 08:58:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f100305b-6c56-4499-98a4-6a22f8c49443@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0f441d8f-d84c-470a-a4cb-0249b15220a2@kernel.org>

On 27/03/2026 07:54, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> On 3/26/26 19:50, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>> On 26/03/2026 18:24, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>>> On 3/26/26 19:16, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 03:42:02PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>>>>> On 3/26/26 13:43, Aishwarya Rambhadran wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Vlastimil, Harry,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> static bool kfree_rcu_sheaf(void *obj)
>>>> {
>>>> 	struct kmem_cache *s;
>>>> 	struct slab *slab;
>>>>
>>>> 	if (is_vmalloc_addr(obj))
>>>> 		return false;
>>>>
>>>> 	slab = virt_to_slab(obj);
>>>> 	if (unlikely(!slab))
>>>> 		return false;
>>>>
>>>> 	s = slab->slab_cache;
>>>> 	if (likely(!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_NUMA) || slab_nid(slab) == numa_mem_id()))
>>>> 		return __kfree_rcu_sheaf(s, obj);
>>>>
>>>> 	return false;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> it does not go via sheaf since it is a vmalloc address.
>>
>> Isn't vmalloc doing slab allocations for vmap_area, vm_struct, etc, which will
>> occasionally go via sheaves though? I had assumed that was the reason of the
>> observed regression.
> 
> You're right. And in the table Harry fixed up (thanks!) I can see the
> regressions are also in tests that don't do kvfree_rcu() but a plain vfree()
> so that rules out the overhead of kfree_rcu_sheaf() returning false.
> 
> It might be due to sheaf_capacity not matching the capacity of cpu (partial)
> slabs. We are working to improve that.

ACK

> 
>>>
>>> Right so there should be just the overhead of the extra is_vmalloc_addr()
>>> test. Possibly also the call of kfree_rcu_sheaf() if it's not inlined.
>>> I'd say it's something we can just accept? It seems this is a unit test
>>> being used as a microbenchmark, so it can be very sensitive even to such
>>> details, but it should be negligible in practice.
>>
>> The perf/syscall cases might be a bit more concerning though? (those tests are
>> from "perf bench syscall fork|execve"). Yes they are microbenchmarks, but a 7%
>> increased cost for fork seems like something we'd want to avoid if we can.
> 
> Sure, I tried to explain those in my first reply. Harry then linked to how
> that explanation can be verified. Hopefully it's really the same reason.

Ahh sorry I missed your first email. We only added that benchmark from 6.19 so
don't have results for earlier kernels, but I'll ask Aishu to run it for 6.17
and 6.18 to see if the results correlate with your expectation.

But from a high level perspective, a 7% regression on fork is not ideal even if
there was a 7% improvement in 6.18.

Thanks,
Ryan

> 
> Thanks!
> Vlastimil
> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ryan
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Uladzislau Rezki
>>>
>>
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-27  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-23  6:52 [PATCH v4 00/22] " Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 01/22] mm/slab: add rcu_barrier() to kvfree_rcu_barrier_on_cache() Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-27 16:08   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 02/22] mm/slab: fix false lockdep warning in __kfree_rcu_sheaf() Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 12:03   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-01-24 10:58     ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 03/22] slab: add SLAB_CONSISTENCY_CHECKS to SLAB_NEVER_MERGE Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 04/22] mm/slab: move and refactor __kmem_cache_alias() Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-27 16:17   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-27 16:59     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 05/22] mm/slab: make caches with sheaves mergeable Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-27 16:23   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 06/22] slab: add sheaves to most caches Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-26  6:36   ` Hao Li
2026-01-26  8:39     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-26 13:59   ` Breno Leitao
2026-01-27 16:34   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-27 17:01     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-29  7:24   ` Zhao Liu
2026-01-29  8:21     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-30  7:15       ` Zhao Liu
2026-02-04 18:01         ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 07/22] slab: introduce percpu sheaves bootstrap Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-26  6:13   ` Hao Li
2026-01-26  8:42     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-27 17:31   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 08/22] slab: make percpu sheaves compatible with kmalloc_nolock()/kfree_nolock() Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 18:05   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-27 17:36   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-29  8:25     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-03-02 11:56   ` D, Suneeth
2026-03-02 12:16     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 09/22] slab: handle kmalloc sheaves bootstrap Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-27 18:30   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 10/22] slab: add optimized sheaf refill from partial list Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-26  7:12   ` Hao Li
2026-01-29  7:43     ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-29  8:29       ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-27 20:05   ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-29  8:01   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 11/22] slab: remove cpu (partial) slabs usage from allocation paths Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 18:17   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 12/22] slab: remove SLUB_CPU_PARTIAL Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 13/22] slab: remove the do_slab_free() fastpath Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 18:15   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 14/22] slab: remove defer_deactivate_slab() Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 17:31   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 15/22] slab: simplify kmalloc_nolock() Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 16/22] slab: remove struct kmem_cache_cpu Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 17/22] slab: remove unused PREEMPT_RT specific macros Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 18/22] slab: refill sheaves from all nodes Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-27 14:28   ` Mateusz Guzik
2026-01-27 22:04     ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-29  9:16   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 19/22] slab: update overview comments Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 20/22] slab: remove frozen slab checks from __slab_free() Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-29  7:16   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-23  6:52 ` [PATCH v4 21/22] mm/slub: remove DEACTIVATE_TO_* stat items Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-29  7:21   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-23  6:53 ` [PATCH v4 22/22] mm/slub: cleanup and repurpose some " Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-29  7:40   ` Harry Yoo
2026-01-29 15:18 ` [PATCH v4 00/22] slab: replace cpu (partial) slabs with sheaves Hao Li
2026-01-29 15:28   ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-29 16:06     ` Hao Li
2026-01-29 16:44       ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-30  4:38         ` Hao Li
2026-01-30  4:50     ` Hao Li
2026-01-30  6:17       ` Hao Li
2026-02-04 18:02       ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-02-04 18:24         ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2026-02-06 16:44           ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-03-26 12:43 ` [REGRESSION] " Aishwarya Rambhadran
2026-03-26 14:42   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-26 18:16     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-03-26 18:24       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-26 18:50         ` Ryan Roberts
2026-03-27  7:54           ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-27  8:58             ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2026-03-27 10:00               ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-03-27 11:21                 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-27 16:24                   ` Aishwarya Rambhadran
2026-03-27  3:20     ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)

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