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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Huan Yang <link@vivo.com>, "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>, Xu Xin <xu.xin16@zte.com.cn>,
	Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>,
	Rakie Kim <rakie.kim@sk.com>, Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>,
	Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/9] introduce PGTY_mgt_entry page_type
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 11:26:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f09131ed-6546-47f3-aaa6-73962f117300@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9a0eade4-8981-4379-8260-e673a1803d56@vivo.com>

>> If you cannot prove that the optimization has some practical effect,
>> it's hard to persuade others for increased complexity.
> 
> To be honest, this patch stems from an issue I noticed during code review.
> 
> When this patchset was completed, I did put in some effort to find its
> benefits, and it was only
> 
> under such an exaggeratedly constructed test scenario that the effect
> could be demonstrated. :(

I mean, thanks for looking into that and trying to find a way to improve 
it. :)


That VMA walk is the real problem, stopping earlier is just an 
optimization that works in some cases. I guess on average it will 
improve things, although probably really hard to quantify in reality.

I think tracking the #migration entries might be a very good debugging tool.

A cleaner and more reliably solution regarding what you tried to 
implement would be able to

(a) track it in a separate counter, at the time we establish/remove a 
migration entry, not once the mapcount is already 0. With "struct folio" 
getting allocated separately in the future this could maybe be feasible 
(and putting it under a config knob).

(b) doing it also for large folios as well


(b) might be tricky with migration entries being used for THP splits, 
but probable it could be special-cased somehow, I am sure.


-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



      reply	other threads:[~2025-07-25  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-24  8:44 Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] mm: introduce PAGE_TYPE_SHIFT Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] mm: add page_type value helper Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] mm/rmap: simplify rmap_walk invoke Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] mm/rmap: add args in rmap_walk_control done hook Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] mm/rmap: introduce exit hook Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] mm/rmap: introduce migrate_walk_arg Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] mm/migrate: rename rmap_walk_arg folio Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] mm/migrate: infrastructure for migrate entry page_type Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] mm/migrate: apply " Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:59 ` [RFC PATCH 0/9] introduce PGTY_mgt_entry page_type David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24  9:09   ` Huan Yang
2025-07-24  9:12     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24  9:20       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24  9:32         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24  9:36           ` Huan Yang
2025-07-24  9:45             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24  9:56               ` Huan Yang
2025-07-24  9:58                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24 10:01                   ` Huan Yang
2025-07-24  9:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24  9:29   ` Huan Yang
2025-07-25  1:37     ` Huang, Ying
2025-07-25  1:47       ` Huan Yang
2025-07-25  9:26         ` David Hildenbrand [this message]

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