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From: Sayali Patil <sayalip@linux.ibm.com>
To: "Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	Ritesh Harjani <ritesh.list@gmail.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Venkat Rao Bagalkote <venkat88@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 08/13] selftests/mm: ensure destination is hugetlb-backed in hugepage-mremap
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2026 23:11:25 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f0905481-3ed3-49e6-a25d-4b58dca7493c@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0a1befae-1037-4bbe-b976-352ef4607d2a@lucifer.local>



On 02/04/26 14:35, Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2026 at 09:33:29AM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>> On 4/1/26 22:39, Sayali Patil wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/04/26 20:10, Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Apr 01, 2026 at 04:21:55PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK so digging in:
>>>>
>>>> mremap -> ... -> vrm_set_new_addr() -> get_unmapped_area() -> ... (in
>>>> ppc arch
>>>> code) -> slice_get_unmapped_area():
>>>>
>>>> unsigned long slice_get_unmapped_area(unsigned long addr, unsigned
>>>> long len,
>>>>                        unsigned long flags, unsigned int psize,
>>>>                        int topdown)
>>>> {
>>>>      ...
>>>>      /* bunch of checks */
>>>>
>>>>      /* If we have MAP_FIXED and failed the above steps, then error out */
>>>>      if (fixed)
>>>>          return -EBUSY;
>>>>
>>>>      ...
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> Is presumably where we hit the issue.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That is weird. An mremap(MREMAP_FIXED) is really just an munmap() +
>>>>> move.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah the weird bit I guess is that we _still_ invoke
>>>> get_unmapped_area() but
>>>> with MAP_FIXED set to indicate that we want the specific address, so it's
>>>> subject to the above checks.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are we sure this is not some actual problem in the hugetlb
>>>>> implementation?
>>>>
>>>> It seems the 'slices' check sees if the _target address_ has an
>>>> equivalent page
>>>> size, presumably hugetlb-mandated, and fails if they're not
>>>> equivalent, so this
>>>> change is just accounting for that.
>>>>
>>> Yes, this change accounts for that by ensuring the destination is
>>> created with MAP_HUGETLB so it has the same page size as the source.
>>
>> Okay, weird, so it's the right thing to do to cover all odd arch behavior.
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But then the test suddenly requires more hugetlb pages, no? I don't see
>>>>> a good reason for the MAP_POPULATE, really. It will be discarded
>>>>> either way.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah I'm not sure about the MAP_POPULATE being all that important here.
>>>>
>>> As far as I understand, without MAP_POPULATE, memory accesses would
>>> trigger userfaults, and since the test is single-threaded and has no
>>> background handler for the uffd, it would deadlock. MAP_POPULATE ensures
>>> the test runs correctly by prefaulting all pages, but please let me know
>>> if I’m mistaken.
>>
>> So you are saying the test would deadlock if you are not adding
>> MAP_POPULATE? If so, please double check if that is actually the case.
>>
>> And if it's actually the case, please carefully document that in the
>> patch description, and probably as a comment above the MAP_POPULATE usage.
> 
> Do keep in mind MAP_POPULATE is not _guaranteed_ to work :)
> 
> For guaranteed populate you need madvise(..., MADV_POPULATE_[READ/WRITE]) or to
> directly fault in.
> 
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> David
> 
> Cheers, Lorenzo
> 
Thanks David and Lorenzo for the input.
I tested without MAP_POPULATE and the test works fine without it.
I will remove it in the next version.

Thanks,
Sayali


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-03 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-27  7:15 [PATCH v3 00/13] selftests/mm: fix failures and robustness improvements Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:15 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] selftests/mm: restore default nr_hugepages value during cleanup in charge_reserved_hugetlb.sh Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:52   ` Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 16:05     ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:15 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] selftests/mm: fix hugetlb pathname construction " Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:06   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27  7:15 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] selftests/mm: fix hugetlb pathname construction in hugetlb_reparenting_test.sh Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:06   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27  7:15 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] selftest/mm: fix cgroup task placement and drop memory.current checks " Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:08   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-03 19:59     ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:15 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] selftests/mm: size tmpfs according to PMD page size in split_huge_page_test Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 16:20   ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:16 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] selftest/mm: adjust hugepage-mremap test size for large huge pages Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:10   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01 20:45     ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:16 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] selftest/mm: register existing mapping with userfaultfd in hugepage-mremap Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:18   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01 14:43     ` Sayali Patil
2026-04-02  7:31       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-03 17:41         ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:16 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] selftests/mm: ensure destination is hugetlb-backed " Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:21   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01 14:40     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-04-01 20:39       ` Sayali Patil
2026-04-02  7:33         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-02  9:05           ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-04-03 17:41             ` Sayali Patil [this message]
2026-04-07 10:22               ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-03-27  7:16 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] selftests/mm: skip uffd-wp-mremap if UFFD write-protect is unsupported Sayali Patil
2026-04-02  6:59   ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:16 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] selftests/mm: skip uffd-stress test when nr_pages_per_cpu is zero Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:23   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-27  7:16 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] selftests/mm: fix double increment in linked list cleanup in compaction_test Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:32   ` Sayali Patil
2026-04-01 14:39     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01 17:33       ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:16 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] selftests/mm: move hwpoison setup into run_test() and silence modprobe output for memory-failure category Sayali Patil
2026-04-02  7:15   ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27  7:16 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] selftests/cgroup: extend test_hugetlb_memcg.c to support all huge page sizes Sayali Patil
2026-04-03 17:16   ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-27 18:11 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] selftests/mm: fix failures and robustness improvements Andrew Morton
2026-03-30  5:57   ` Sayali Patil
2026-03-30 22:11     ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-01 14:05       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-01 15:03       ` Sayali Patil

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