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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
	Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 00/14] KVM: Restricted mapping of guest_memfd at the host and arm64 support
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 10:36:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ef53e99b-862d-4285-b86b-908fd60070c3@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e49e3e78-1fb9-44b8-af11-69f7c39f5820@suse.cz>

On 20.01.25 10:26, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 1/16/25 10:19, Fuad Tabba wrote:
>> Hi Ackerley,
>>
>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 at 00:35, Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Registration of the folio_put() callback only happens if the VMM
>>> actually tries to do vcpu_run(). For 4K folios I think this is okay
>>> since the 4K folio can be freed via the transition state K -> state I,
>>> but for hugetlb folios that have been split for sharing with userspace,
>>> not getting a folio_put() callback means never putting the hugetlb folio
>>> together. Hence, relying on vcpu_run() to add the folio_put() callback
>>> leaves a way that hugetlb pages can be removed from the system.
>>>
>>> I think we should try and find a path forward that works for both 4K and
>>> hugetlb folios.
>>
>> I agree, this could be an issue, but we could find other ways to
>> trigger the callback for huge folios. The important thing I was trying
>> to get to is how to have the callback and be able to register it.
>>
>>> IIUC page._mapcount and page.page_type works as a union because
>>> page_type is only set for page types that are never mapped to userspace,
>>> like PGTY_slab, PGTY_offline, etc.
>>
>> In the last guest_memfd sync, David Hildenbrand mentioned that that
>> would be a temporary restriction since the two structures would
>> eventually be decoupled, work being done by Matthew Wilcox I believe.
> 
> Note the "temporary" might be few years still, it's a long-term project.

Right, nobody knows how long it will actually take. Willy thinks the 
part that would be required here might be feasible in the nearer future: 
"'d like to lay out some goals for the coming year. I think we can 
accomplish a big goal this year" [1]

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/Z37pxbkHPbLYnDKn@casper.infradead.org/T/#u

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-20  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-13 16:47 Fuad Tabba
2024-12-13 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v4 01/14] mm: Consolidate freeing of typed folios on final folio_put() Fuad Tabba
2024-12-13 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v4 02/14] KVM: guest_memfd: Make guest mem use guest mem inodes instead of anonymous inodes Fuad Tabba
2024-12-13 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH v4 03/14] KVM: guest_memfd: Introduce kvm_gmem_get_pfn_locked(), which retains the folio lock Fuad Tabba
2024-12-13 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 04/14] KVM: guest_memfd: Track mappability within a struct kvm_gmem_private Fuad Tabba
2024-12-13 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 05/14] KVM: guest_memfd: Folio mappability states and functions that manage their transition Fuad Tabba
2024-12-13 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 06/14] KVM: guest_memfd: Handle final folio_put() of guestmem pages Fuad Tabba
2024-12-13 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 07/14] KVM: guest_memfd: Allow host to mmap guest_memfd() pages when shared Fuad Tabba
2024-12-27  4:21   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-09 10:17     ` Fuad Tabba
2024-12-13 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 08/14] KVM: guest_memfd: Add guest_memfd support to kvm_(read|/write)_guest_page() Fuad Tabba
2024-12-13 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 09/14] KVM: guest_memfd: Add KVM capability to check if guest_memfd is host mappable Fuad Tabba
2024-12-13 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 10/14] KVM: guest_memfd: Add a guest_memfd() flag to initialize it as mappable Fuad Tabba
2024-12-13 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 11/14] KVM: guest_memfd: selftests: guest_memfd mmap() test when mapping is allowed Fuad Tabba
2024-12-13 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 12/14] KVM: arm64: Skip VMA checks for slots without userspace address Fuad Tabba
2024-12-13 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 13/14] KVM: arm64: Handle guest_memfd()-backed guest page faults Fuad Tabba
2025-01-16 14:48   ` Patrick Roy
2025-01-16 15:16     ` Fuad Tabba
2024-12-13 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH v4 14/14] KVM: arm64: Enable guest_memfd private memory when pKVM is enabled Fuad Tabba
2025-01-09 16:34 ` [RFC PATCH v4 00/14] KVM: Restricted mapping of guest_memfd at the host and arm64 support Fuad Tabba
2025-01-16  0:35   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-01-16  9:19     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-01-20  9:26       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-20  9:36         ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-01-16 14:48 ` Patrick Roy
2025-01-16 15:02   ` Fuad Tabba

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