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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Cc: "lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org" <lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Non-lru page migration in a memdesc world
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 19:56:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eee32b1d-0cce-4fcd-a29c-fd19f9c1af66@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2612ac8a-d0a9-452b-a53d-75ffc6166224@redhat.com>

On 07.01.25 17:11, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> one item on my todo list is making PageOffline pages to stop using
> "struct page" members except page->type and 1/2 flags, to prepare them
> for the memdesc future, to avoid unnecessary atomics, and to resolve
> some (so-far) theoretical issues with temporary speculative references.
> 
> For example, the page->_refcount will always be 0 (frozen) for
> PageOffline pages, and they will get allocated/freed similar to how we
> allocate/free frozen pages for slab already. Once we move the refcount
> into "struct folio", they will not have a refcount at all anymore.
> 
> One complication is balloon compaction: we allow for migrating
> PageOffline pages allocated in some memory ballooning implementations
> such as virtio-balloon.
> 
> For that, we use the "non-lru page migration" framework and in that
> process we make use of ... way to many members of "struct page"/"struct
> folio" and rely on the refcount not being 0. For example, we certainly
> don't want to allocate memdescs for PageOffline pages just so some of
> them can be migrated.
> 
> While we converted non-lru page migration to work on folios (i.e.,
> folio_movable_ops()) these things are not actually "folios" in the
> future, they can have different memdescs.
> 
> So, how can we migrate non-lru things that are not folios while not
> relying on "struct folio" members, with minimal/no metadata overhead?
> 
> I have some ideas, but no complete solution yet; input about the
> requirements of other non-lru page migration use cases besides
> PageOffline will be interesting.
> 
> ... and maybe, we have other non-folio things we'd want to migrate, and
> want to be prepared to handle them as well? (hint: leaf page tables?)
> 

Slides from today:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NIjjwVAonz9WWIoJZ0nh71ovMfSjfqFc/view?usp=sharing

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



      parent reply	other threads:[~2025-03-24 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-07 16:11 David Hildenbrand
2025-01-07 16:48 ` Zi Yan
2025-01-07 16:55   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-07 17:27     ` Zi Yan
2025-01-13  4:18       ` Alistair Popple
2025-01-13  4:56         ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-01-07 16:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-01-08  3:39   ` Zi Yan
2025-03-24 18:56 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]

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