From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: "Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 00/20] TDX host kernel support
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 10:56:19 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ee1949b33915ed8a80aa8318435595feee88a538.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6482423c7c52a_142af8294a6@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch>
On Thu, 2023-06-08 at 14:03 -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> Kai Huang wrote:
> > Intel Trusted Domain Extensions (TDX) protects guest VMs from malicious
> > host and certain physical attacks. TDX specs are available in [1].
> >
> > This series is the initial support to enable TDX with minimal code to
> > allow KVM to create and run TDX guests. KVM support for TDX is being
> > developed separately[2]. A new "userspace inaccessible memfd" approach
> > to support TDX private memory is also being developed[3]. The KVM will
> > only support the new "userspace inaccessible memfd" as TDX guest memory.
>
> This memfd approach is incompatible with one of the primary ways that
> new memory topologies like high-bandwidth-memory and CXL are accessed,
> via a device-special-file mapping. There is already precedent for mmap()
> to only be used for communicating address value and not CPU accessible
> memory. See "Userspace P2PDMA with O_DIRECT NVMe devices" [1].
>
> So before this memfd requirement becomes too baked in to the design I
> want to understand if "userspace inaccessible" is the only requirement
> so I can look to add that to the device-special-file interface for
> "device" / "Soft Reserved" memory like HBM and CXL.
>
> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221021174116.7200-1-logang@deltatee.com/
+ Peng, Chao who is working on this with Sean.
There are some recent developments around the design of the "userspace
inaccessible memfd", e.g., IIUC Sean is proposing to replace the new syscall
with a new KVM ioctl().
Hi Sean, Chao,
Could you give comments to Dan's concern?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-12 10:56 UTC|newest]
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[not found] ` <ec640452a4385d61bec97f8b761ed1ff38898504.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
2023-06-06 23:55 ` [PATCH v11 05/20] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL infrastructure Isaku Yamahata
2023-06-07 14:24 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-07 18:53 ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-06-07 19:27 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-07 19:47 ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-06-07 20:08 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-06-07 20:22 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-08 0:51 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-08 13:50 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-07 22:56 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-08 14:05 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-19 12:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-20 10:37 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-20 12:20 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-20 12:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-20 15:15 ` Dave Hansen
[not found] ` <86f2a8814240f4bbe850f6a09fc9d0b934979d1b.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
[not found] ` <20230606123821.exit7gyxs42dxotz@box.shutemov.name>
2023-06-06 22:58 ` [PATCH v11 04/20] x86/cpu: Detect TDX partial write machine check erratum Huang, Kai
2023-06-07 15:06 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-07 14:15 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-07 22:43 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-19 11:37 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-20 15:44 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-20 23:11 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-19 12:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-20 10:31 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-20 15:39 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-20 16:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-20 16:21 ` Dave Hansen
[not found] ` <9b3582c9f3a81ae68b32d9997fcd20baecb63b9b.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
2023-06-07 8:19 ` [PATCH v11 06/20] x86/virt/tdx: Handle SEAMCALL running out of entropy error Isaku Yamahata
2023-06-07 15:08 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-07 23:36 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-08 0:29 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-08 0:08 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-09 14:42 ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-06-12 11:04 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-19 13:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-20 10:39 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-20 11:14 ` David Hildenbrand
[not found] ` <21b3a45cb73b4e1917c1eba75b7769781a15aa14.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
2023-06-07 15:22 ` [PATCH v11 07/20] x86/virt/tdx: Add skeleton to enable TDX on demand Dave Hansen
2023-06-08 2:10 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-08 13:43 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-12 11:21 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-19 13:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-19 23:28 ` Huang, Kai
[not found] ` <468533166590ff5ed11730350c4af8cdb0b99165.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
2023-06-07 15:48 ` [PATCH v11 09/20] x86/virt/tdx: Use all system memory when initializing TDX module as TDX memory Dave Hansen
2023-06-07 23:22 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-08 22:40 ` kirill.shutemov
[not found] ` <f9148e67e968d7aed4707b67ea9b1aa761401255.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
2023-06-07 15:54 ` [PATCH v11 10/20] x86/virt/tdx: Add placeholder to construct TDMRs to cover all TDX memory regions Dave Hansen
2023-06-07 15:57 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-08 10:18 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-08 22:52 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-12 2:21 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-12 3:01 ` Dave Hansen
[not found] ` <cee2f2664aac3c5314896c6d14cba50f2617c0e5.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
2023-06-08 0:08 ` [PATCH v11 03/20] x86/virt/tdx: Make INTEL_TDX_HOST depend on X86_X2APIC kirill.shutemov
[not found] ` <50386eddbb8046b0b222d385e56e8115ed566526.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
2023-06-07 15:25 ` [PATCH v11 08/20] x86/virt/tdx: Get information about TDX module and TDX-capable memory Dave Hansen
2023-06-08 0:27 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-08 2:40 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-08 11:41 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-08 13:13 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-12 2:00 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-08 23:29 ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-06-08 23:54 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-09 1:33 ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-06-09 10:02 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-12 2:00 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-19 13:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-19 23:51 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-08 21:03 ` [PATCH v11 00/20] TDX host kernel support Dan Williams
2023-06-12 10:56 ` Huang, Kai [this message]
[not found] ` <927ec9871721d2a50f1aba7d1cf7c3be50e4f49b.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
2023-06-07 16:05 ` [PATCH v11 11/20] x86/virt/tdx: Fill out TDMRs to cover all TDX memory regions Dave Hansen
2023-06-08 10:48 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-08 13:11 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-12 2:33 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-12 14:33 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-12 22:10 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-13 10:18 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-13 23:19 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-08 23:02 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-12 2:25 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-09 4:01 ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2023-06-12 2:28 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-14 12:31 ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-06-14 22:45 ` Huang, Kai
[not found] ` <4e108968c3294189ad150f62df1f146168036342.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
2023-06-08 23:24 ` [PATCH v11 12/20] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate and set up PAMTs for TDMRs kirill.shutemov
2023-06-08 23:43 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-12 2:52 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-25 15:38 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-15 7:48 ` Nikolay Borisov
[not found] ` <409448809f7c78191aa27d6d2970ba1384c2d464.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
2023-06-08 23:53 ` [PATCH v11 13/20] x86/virt/tdx: Designate reserved areas for all TDMRs kirill.shutemov
[not found] ` <4e6cd933edd2501147366df7a17e1087560a4320.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
2023-06-08 23:53 ` [PATCH v11 14/20] x86/virt/tdx: Configure TDX module with the TDMRs and global KeyID kirill.shutemov
[not found] ` <30358db4eff961c69783bbd4d9f3e50932a9a759.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
2023-06-08 23:53 ` [PATCH v11 15/20] x86/virt/tdx: Configure global KeyID on all packages kirill.shutemov
2023-06-15 8:12 ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-06-15 22:24 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-19 14:56 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-19 23:38 ` Huang, Kai
[not found] ` <7bd7d0c6196deb58b54d6e629603775844b1307d.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
2023-06-09 10:03 ` [PATCH v11 16/20] x86/virt/tdx: Initialize all TDMRs kirill.shutemov
[not found] ` <17bcbe3e154415ee7a4c77489809a3db0c5ddf3f.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
2023-06-09 10:14 ` [PATCH v11 17/20] x86/kexec: Flush cache of TDX private memory kirill.shutemov
[not found] ` <116cafb15625ac0bcda7b47143921d0c42061b69.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
2023-06-09 13:17 ` [PATCH v11 19/20] x86/mce: Improve error log of kernel space TDX #MC due to erratum kirill.shutemov
2023-06-12 3:08 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-12 7:59 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-12 13:51 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-12 23:31 ` Huang, Kai
[not found] ` <5aa7506d4fedbf625e3fe8ceeb88af3be1ce97ea.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
2023-06-09 13:23 ` [PATCH v11 18/20] x86: Handle TDX erratum to reset TDX private memory during kexec() and reboot kirill.shutemov
2023-06-12 3:06 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-12 7:58 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-12 10:27 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-12 11:48 ` kirill.shutemov
2023-06-12 13:18 ` David Laight
2023-06-12 13:47 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-13 0:51 ` Huang, Kai
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2023-06-14 0:15 ` Huang, Kai
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2023-06-13 23:18 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-14 0:24 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-14 0:38 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-14 0:42 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-19 11:43 ` Huang, Kai
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2023-06-19 23:35 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-19 23:41 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-20 0:56 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-20 1:06 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-20 7:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-25 15:30 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-25 23:26 ` Huang, Kai
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2023-06-20 8:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-20 10:42 ` Huang, Kai
2023-06-20 10:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-06-14 9:33 ` Huang, Kai
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[not found] ` <34853e0f8f38ec2fda66b0ba480d4df63b8aab43.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
2023-06-08 23:56 ` [PATCH v11 20/20] Documentation/x86: Add documentation for TDX host support Dave Hansen
2023-06-12 3:41 ` Huang, Kai
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2023-06-16 16:26 ` Dave Hansen
[not found] ` <af4e428ab1245e9441031438e606c14472daf927.1685887183.git.kai.huang@intel.com>
[not found] ` <a2da8af2-41a9-a0cf-dbe9-7f0a14bf05fe@linux.intel.com>
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