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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	 linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	gthelen@google.coma,  Chris Li <chriscli@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH rfc 0/9] mm: memcg: separate legacy cgroup v1 code and put under config option
Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 19:59:19 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <edff9a60-a77f-bc6c-3d07-4f96a97f1e38@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jf44dfyaenz6xmn2hcodaginrshw5d5hfhmakdxtj4x6szk6b2@cr2rxamkgj2m>

On Wed, 8 May 2024, Shakeel Butt wrote:

> Hi Roman,
> 
> A very timely and important topic and we should definitely talk about it
> during LSFMM as well. I have been thinking about this problem for quite
> sometime and I am getting more and more convinced that we should aim to
> completely deprecate memcg-v1.
> 

I think this would be a very worthwhile discussion at LSF/MM, I'm not sure 
if it would be too late for someone to make a formal proposal for it to be 
included in the schedule.  Michal would know if there is a opportunity.

I say that in light of 
https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/ZjL5b-zipMrV2JSg@archie.me/T/#mb6c21b09543c434dd85e718a8ecf5ca6485e6d07 
as well for the whole cgroup v1 -> v2 transition.

Chris, now cc'd, would know best about all of the dependencies that Google 
has for memcg specifically.

> More specifically:
> 
> 1. What are the memcg-v1 features which have no alternative in memcg-v2
> and are blocker for memcg-v1 users? (setting aside the cgroup v2
> structual restrictions)
> 
> 2. What are unused memcg-v1 features which we should start deprecating?
> 
> IMO we should systematically start deprecating memcg-v1 features and
> start unblocking the users stuck on memcg-v1.
> 
> Now regarding the proposal in this series, I think it can be a first
> step but should not give an impression that we are done. The only
> concern I have is the potential of "out of sight, out of mind" situation
> with this change but if we keep the momentum of deprecation of memcg-v1
> it should be fine.
> 
> I have CCed Greg and David from Google to get their opinion on what
> memcg-v1 features are blocker for their memcg-v2 migration and if they
> have concern in deprecation of memcg-v1 features.
> 
> Anyone else still on memcg-v1, please do provide your input.
> 
> thanks,
> Shakeel
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-05-10  2:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-09  3:41 Roman Gushchin
2024-05-09  3:41 ` [PATCH rfc 1/9] mm: memcg: introduce memcontrol-v1.c Roman Gushchin
2024-05-09  3:41 ` [PATCH rfc 2/9] mm: memcg: move soft limit reclaim code to memcontrol-v1.c Roman Gushchin
2024-05-09  3:41 ` [PATCH rfc 3/9] mm: memcg: move charge migration " Roman Gushchin
2024-05-09  3:41 ` [PATCH rfc 4/9] mm: memcg: move legacy memcg event code into memcontrol-v1.c Roman Gushchin
2024-05-09  3:41 ` [PATCH rfc 5/9] mm: memcg: move cgroup v1 interface files to memcontrol-v1.c Roman Gushchin
2024-05-09  3:41 ` [PATCH rfc 6/9] mm: memcg: move cgroup v1 oom handling code into memcontrol-v1.c Roman Gushchin
2024-05-10 13:26   ` Michal Hocko
2024-05-25  1:03     ` Roman Gushchin
2024-05-09  3:41 ` [PATCH rfc 7/9] mm: memcg: put cgroup v1-specific code under a config option Roman Gushchin
2024-05-09  3:41 ` [PATCH rfc 8/9] mm: memcg: put corresponding struct mem_cgroup members under CONFIG_MEMCG_V1 Roman Gushchin
2024-05-09  3:41 ` [PATCH rfc 9/9] mm: memcg: put cgroup v1-related members of task_struct under config option Roman Gushchin
2024-05-09  6:33 ` [PATCH rfc 0/9] mm: memcg: separate legacy cgroup v1 code and put " Shakeel Butt
2024-05-09 17:30   ` Roman Gushchin
2024-05-10  2:59   ` David Rientjes [this message]
2024-05-10  7:10     ` Chris Li
2024-05-10  8:10     ` Michal Hocko
2024-05-16  3:35   ` Yafang Shao
2024-05-16 17:29     ` Roman Gushchin
2024-05-17  2:21       ` Yafang Shao
2024-05-18  2:13         ` Roman Gushchin
2024-05-18  7:32     ` Shakeel Butt
2024-05-20  2:14       ` Yafang Shao
2024-05-22 17:58   ` Kairui Song
2024-05-23 19:55     ` Roman Gushchin
2024-05-23 20:26       ` Chris Li
2024-05-28 17:20       ` Kairui Song
2024-05-09 14:22 ` Johannes Weiner
2024-05-09 14:36   ` Johannes Weiner
2024-05-09 14:57     ` Roman Gushchin
2024-05-10 14:18       ` Johannes Weiner
2024-05-10 13:33 ` Michal Hocko

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