From: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
To: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, hughd@google.com, david@redhat.com
Cc: ziy@nvidia.com, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com,
Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, npache@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
baohua@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/2] mm: huge_memory: disallow hugepages if the system-wide THP sysfs settings are disabled
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 10:04:15 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ed1be989-4840-4461-bc9f-7f9cdc434d93@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <25252834a20a2e8f611ba572d9fae98fb8d67982.1750815384.git.baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
On 25/06/25 7:10 am, Baolin Wang wrote:
> When invoking thp_vma_allowable_orders(), the TVA_ENFORCE_SYSFS flag is not
> specified, we will ignore the THP sysfs settings. Whilst it makes sense for the
> callers who do not specify this flag, it creates a odd and surprising situation
> where a sysadmin specifying 'never' for all THP sizes still observing THP pages
> being allocated and used on the system.
>
> The motivating case for this is MADV_COLLAPSE. The MADV_COLLAPSE will ignore
> the system-wide Anon THP sysfs settings, which means that even though we have
> disabled the Anon THP configuration, MADV_COLLAPSE will still attempt to collapse
> into a Anon THP. This violates the rule we have agreed upon: never means never.
>
> Currently, besides MADV_COLLAPSE not setting TVA_ENFORCE_SYSFS, there is only
> one other instance where TVA_ENFORCE_SYSFS is not set, which is in the
> collapse_pte_mapped_thp() function, but I believe this is reasonable from its
> comments.
>
> "
> /*
> * If we are here, we've succeeded in replacing all the native pages
> * in the page cache with a single hugepage. If a mm were to fault-in
> * this memory (mapped by a suitably aligned VMA), we'd get the hugepage
> * and map it by a PMD, regardless of sysfs THP settings. As such, let's
> * analogously elide sysfs THP settings here.
> */
> if (!thp_vma_allowable_order(vma, vma->vm_flags, 0, PMD_ORDER))
> "
>
> Another rule for madvise, referring to David's suggestion: “allowing for
> collapsing in a VM without VM_HUGEPAGE in the "madvise" mode would be fine".
>
> To address this issue, the current strategy should be:
>
> If no hugepage modes are enabled for the desired orders, nor can we enable them
> by inheriting from a 'global' enabled setting - then it must be the case that
> all desired orders either specify or inherit 'NEVER' - and we must abort.
>
> Meanwhile, we should fix the khugepaged selftest for MADV_COLLAPSE. Originally,
> we could prevent khugepaged by setting THP_MADVISE and removing MADV_HUGEPAGE
> setting, while madvise_collapse() can still perform THP collapse. However,
> this would cause some test cases to fail because some tests previously set
> MADV_NOHUGEPAGE, and now there is no other way to clear the MADV_NOHUGEPAGE
> flag except for setting MADV_HUGEPAGE. Therefore, it should be changed to
> THP_ALWAYS here to allow madvise_collapse() to perform THP collapse.
>
> Suggested-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> Suggested-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
> Reviewed-by: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
> Reviewed-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
> Signed-off-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
> ---
>
Reviewed-by: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-25 4:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-25 1:40 [PATCH v4 0/2] fix MADV_COLLAPSE issue if THP " Baolin Wang
2025-06-25 1:40 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] mm: huge_memory: disallow hugepages if the system-wide THP sysfs " Baolin Wang
2025-06-25 4:34 ` Dev Jain [this message]
2025-06-25 1:40 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] mm: shmem: disallow hugepages if the system-wide shmem " Baolin Wang
2025-06-25 5:53 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] fix MADV_COLLAPSE issue if THP " Hugh Dickins
2025-06-25 6:05 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-25 6:26 ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-25 6:49 ` Dev Jain
2025-06-25 6:55 ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-25 7:20 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-25 7:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 7:55 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-25 8:12 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-25 8:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 8:37 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-25 8:52 ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-25 9:31 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-25 10:02 ` Baolin Wang
2025-06-25 10:07 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 10:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-25 10:29 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 8:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 11:03 ` Usama Arif
2025-06-25 11:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-26 3:49 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-06-25 7:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 7:30 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-25 7:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 7:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-25 7:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 8:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 8:22 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-25 8:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-25 8:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-25 21:51 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-07-09 12:36 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-10 1:58 ` Baolin Wang
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