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From: Joseph Salisbury <joseph.salisbury@oracle.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>, Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Kemeng Shi <shikemeng@huaweicloud.com>,
	Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: [RFC] mm: stress-ng --mremap triggers severe lruvec lock contention in populate/unmap paths
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2026 10:27:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ebbd4c39-859f-4a10-a9e2-c0e9cd1013a9@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <639f20f3-9e65-4117-af9b-e37af0829847@kernel.org>



On 4/8/26 4:09 AM, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>> It was also found that adding '--mremap-numa' changes the behavior
>>> substantially:
>> "assign memory mapped pages to randomly selected NUMA nodes. This is
>> disabled for systems that do not support NUMA."
>>
>> so this is just sharding your lock contention across your NUMA nodes (you
>> have an lruvec per node).
>>
>>> stress-ng --mremap 8192 --mremap-bytes 4K --timeout 30 --mremap-numa
>>> --metrics-brief
>>>
>>> mremap 2570798 29.39 8.06 106.23 87466.50 22494.74
>>>
>>> So it's possible that either actual swapping, or the mbind(...,
>>> MPOL_MF_MOVE) path used by '--mremap-numa', removes most of the excessive
>>> system time.
>>>
>>> Does this look like a known MM scalability issue around short-lived
>>> MAP_POPULATE / munmap churn?
>> Yes. Is this an actual issue on some workload?
> Same thought, it's unclear to me why we should care here. In particular,
> when talking about excessive use of zero-filled pages.
>
Currently this is only showing up with that particular stress test. We 
will try John's patch and provide feedback.

Thanks for all the feedback, everyone!


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-08 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-07 20:09 Joseph Salisbury
2026-04-07 21:47 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-04-08  8:09   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-08 14:27     ` Joseph Salisbury [this message]
2026-04-07 22:44 ` John Hubbard
2026-04-08  0:35   ` Hugh Dickins

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