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The other one would be the dynamic one. > >> >>> + def_bool y> + depends on HUGETLB_PAGE && >> ARCH_WANTS_HUGE_ZERO_PAGE_ALWAYS >> >> I suspect it should then also be independent of HUGETLB_PAGE? > > You are right. So we don't depend on any of these features. > >> >>> + help >>> + Typically huge_zero_folio, which is a huge page of zeroes, is allocated >>> + on demand and deallocated when not in use. This option will always >>> + allocate huge_zero_folio for zeroing and it is never deallocated. >>> + Not suitable for memory constrained systems. >> >> I assume that code then has to live in mm/memory.c ? > > Hmm, then huge_zero_folio should have always been in mm/memory.c to > begin with? > It's complicated. Only do_huge_pmd_anonymous_page() (and fsdax) really uses it, and it may only get mapped into a process under certain conditions (related to THP / PMD handling). > I assume probably this was placed in mm/huge_memory.c because the users > of this huge_zero_folio has been a part of mm/huge_memory.c? Yes. > > So IIUC your comment, we should move the huge_zero_page_init() in the > first patch to mm/memory.c and the existing shrinker code can be a part > where they already are? Good question. At least the "static" part can easily be moved over. Maybe the dynamic part as well. Worth trying it out and seeing how it looks :) -- Cheers, David / dhildenb