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From: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
	davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com
Cc: <zhangkun09@huawei.com>, <fanghaiqing@huawei.com>,
	<liuyonglong@huawei.com>, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	IOMMU <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	<linux-mm@kvack.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel-team <kernel-team@cloudflare.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 3/3] page_pool: fix IOMMU crash when driver has already unbound
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 20:22:57 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eab44c89-5ada-48b6-b880-65967c0f3b49@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ldxp4n9v.fsf@toke.dk>

On 2024/11/12 2:51, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:

...

>>
>> Is there any other suggestion/concern about how to fix the problem here?
>>
>> From the previous discussion, it seems the main concern about tracking the
>> inflight pages is about how many inflight pages it is needed.
> 
> Yeah, my hardest objection was against putting a hard limit on the
> number of outstanding pages.
> 
>> If there is no other suggestion/concern , it seems the above concern might be
>> addressed by using pre-allocated memory to satisfy the mostly used case, and
>> use the dynamically allocated memory if/when necessary.
> 
> For this, my biggest concern would be performance.
> 
> In general, doing extra work in rarely used code paths (such as device
> teardown) is much preferred to adding extra tracking in the fast path.
> Which would be an argument for Alexander's suggestion of just scanning
> the entire system page table to find pages to unmap. Don't know enough
> about mm system internals to have an opinion on whether this is
> feasible, though.

Yes, there seems to be many MM system internals, like the CONFIG_SPARSEMEM*
config, memory offline/online and other MM specific optimization that it
is hard to tell it is feasible.

It would be good if MM experts can clarify on this.

> 
> In any case, we'll need some numbers to really judge the overhead in
> practice. So benchmarking would be the logical next step in any case :)

Using POC code show that using the dynamic memory allocation does not
seems to be adding much overhead than the pre-allocated memory allocation
in this patch, the overhead is about 10~20ns, which seems to be similar to
the overhead of added overhead in the patch.

> 
> -Toke
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-12 12:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20241022032214.3915232-1-linyunsheng@huawei.com>
2024-10-22  3:22 ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-10-22 16:40   ` Simon Horman
2024-10-22 18:14   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-10-23  8:59     ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-10-24 14:40       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-10-25  3:20         ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-10-25 11:16           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-10-25 14:07             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-10-26  7:33               ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-06 13:25                 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-11-06 15:57                   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-11-06 19:55                     ` Alexander Duyck
2024-11-07 11:10                       ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-07 11:09                     ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-11 11:31                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-11 18:51                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-11-12 12:22                     ` Yunsheng Lin [this message]
2024-11-12 14:19                       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-11-13 12:21                         ` Yunsheng Lin
     [not found]                         ` <40c9b515-1284-4c49-bdce-c9eeff5092f9@huawei.com>
2024-11-18 15:11                           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-10-26  7:32             ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-10-29 13:58               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-10-30 11:30                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-10-30 11:57                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-10-31 12:17                     ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-10-31 16:18                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-11-01 11:11                         ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-05 20:11                           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-11-06 10:56                             ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-06 14:17                               ` Robin Murphy
2024-11-07  8:41                               ` Christoph Hellwig

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