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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Sven van Ashbrook <svenva@chromium.org>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	Karthikeyan Ramasubramanian <kramasub@chromium.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Brian Geffon <bgeffon@google.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org,
	Curtis Malainey <cujomalainey@chromium.org>,
	Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
	linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Stall at page allocations with __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL (Re: [PATCH v1] ALSA: memalloc: Fix indefinite hang in non-iommu case)
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:58:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea61304a-81a4-402d-9d71-b13b9ac89ed2@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG-rBihs_xMKb3wrMO1+-+p4fowP9oy1pa_OTkfxBzPUVOZF+g@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/20/24 16:52, Sven van Ashbrook wrote:
> Takaski, Vlastimil: thanks so much for the engagement! See below.
> 
>> On 2/19/24 12:36, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>> >
>> > Karthikeyan, Sven, and co: could you guys show the stack trace at the
>> > stall?  This may give us more clear light.
> Here are our notes of the indefinite stall we saw on v5.10 with iommu SoCs.
> We did not pursue debugging the stall at the time, in favour of a work-around
> with the gfp flags. Therefore we only have partial confidence in the notes
> below. Take them with a block of salt, but they may point in a useful direction.
> 
> 1. try to do a "costly" allocation (order > PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER) with
>     __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL set.
> 
> 2. page alloc's __alloc_pages_slowpath [1] tries to get a page from
> the freelist.
>     This fails because there is nothing free of that costly order.
> 
> 3. page alloc tries to reclaim by calling __alloc_pages_direct_reclaim, which
>     bails out [2] because a zone is ready to be compacted; it pretends
> to have made
>     a single page of progress.
> 
> 4. page alloc tries to compact, but this always bails out early [3]
> because __GFP_IO is not set
>     (it's not passed by the snd allocator, and even if it were, we are
> suspending so the
>     __GFP_IO flag would be cleared anyway).
> 
> 5. page alloc believes reclaim progress was made (because of the
> pretense in item 3) and
>     so it checks whether it should retry compaction. The compaction
> retry logic [4] thinks
>     it should try again, because:
>     a) reclaim is needed because of the early bail-out in item 4
>     b) a zonelist is suitable for compaction
> 
> 6. goto 2. indefinite stall.

Thanks a lot, seems this can indeed happen even in 6.8-rc5. We're
mishandling the case where compaction is skipped due to lack of __GFP_IO,
which is indeed cleared in suspend/resume. I'll create a fix. Please don't
hesitate to report such issues the next time, even if not fully debugged :)

>>
>> > Also, Vlastimil suggested that tracepoints would be helpful if that's
>> > really in the page allocator, too.
>> >
> 
> We might be able to generate traces by bailing out of the indefinite
> stall using a timer,
> which should hopefully give us a device that's "alive enough" to read
> the traces.
> 
> Can you advise which tracepoints you'd like to see? Is trace-cmd [5]
> suitable to capture
> this?
> 
> [1] https://source.chromium.org/chromiumos/chromiumos/codesearch/+/main:src/third_party/kernel/v5.10/mm/page_alloc.c;l=4654;drc=a16293af64a1f558dab9a5dd7fb05fdbc2b7c5c0
> [2] https://source.chromium.org/chromiumos/chromiumos/codesearch/+/main:src/third_party/kernel/v5.10/mm/vmscan.c;drc=44452e4236561f6e36ec587805a52b683e2804c9;l=6177
> [3] https://source.chromium.org/chromiumos/chromiumos/codesearch/+/main:src/third_party/kernel/v5.10/mm/compaction.c;l=2479;drc=d7b105aa1559e6c287f3f372044c21c7400b7784
> [4] https://source.chromium.org/chromiumos/chromiumos/codesearch/+/main:src/third_party/kernel/v5.10/mm/page_alloc.c;l=4171;drc=a16293af64a1f558dab9a5dd7fb05fdbc2b7c5c0
> [5] https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/docs/+/HEAD/kernel_development.md#ftrace-debugging



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-21  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20240214170720.v1.1.Ic3de2566a7fd3de8501b2f18afa9f94eadb2df0a@changeid>
2024-02-19 11:36 ` Takashi Iwai
2024-02-19 11:40   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-02-20 15:52     ` Sven van Ashbrook
2024-02-21  9:21       ` Takashi Iwai
2024-02-21 15:37         ` Sven van Ashbrook
2024-02-21  9:58       ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2024-02-21 15:40         ` Sven van Ashbrook
2024-02-21 11:43       ` [PATCH] mm, vmscan: prevent infinite loop for costly GFP_NOIO | __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL allocations Vlastimil Babka
2024-02-21 15:52         ` Sven van Ashbrook
2024-02-22 16:43           ` Karthikeyan Ramasubramanian
2024-02-26 16:09         ` Sven van Ashbrook
2024-02-26 16:45           ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-02-28 19:33         ` Karthikeyan Ramasubramanian

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