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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@samsung.com>,
	Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"stable@vger.kernel.org" <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"willy@infradead.org" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"vishal.moola@gmail.com" <vishal.moola@gmail.com>,
	"wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com" <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	"minchan@kernel.org" <minchan@kernel.org>,
	"yuzhao@google.com" <yuzhao@google.com>,
	"ryan.roberts@arm.com" <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	"shy828301@gmail.com" <shy828301@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] madvise:madvise_free_pte_range(): don't use mapcount() against large folio for sharing check
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 15:41:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea478fa8-655b-90cc-0cd3-5f127e7e68b7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4jvrmdpyteny5vaqmcrctzrovap2oy2zuukybbhfqyqbbb5xmy@ufgxufss2ngw>

On 15.08.23 15:25, Daniel Gomez wrote:
> Hi Yin,
> On Tue, Aug 08, 2023 at 10:09:17AM +0800, Yin Fengwei wrote:
>> Commit 98b211d6415f ("madvise: convert madvise_free_pte_range() to use a
>> folio") replaced the page_mapcount() with folio_mapcount() to check
>> whether the folio is shared by other mapping.
>>
>> It's not correct for large folios. folio_mapcount() returns the total
>> mapcount of large folio which is not suitable to detect whether the folio
>> is shared.
>>
>> Use folio_estimated_sharers() which returns a estimated number of shares.
>> That means it's not 100% correct. It should be OK for madvise case here.
> 
> I'm trying to understand why it should be ok for madvise this change, so
> I hope it's okay to ask you few questions.
> 
> folio_mapcount() calculates the total maps for all the subpages of a
> folio. However, the folio_estimated_sharers does it only for the first
> subpage making it not true for large folios. Then, wouldn't this change
> drop support for large folios?

It's all a mess right now.

1) page_mapcount(page): how often it this page mapped

For a THP: entire mapcount of the THP (PMD-mapping) + mapcount of *this 
very subpage* (PTE-mapping) only


2) folio_mapcount(): how often is this folio mapped

For a THP: entire mapcount of the THP (PMD-mapping) + mapcount of *all* 
subpages (PTE-mapping) of the folio


3) folio_estimated_sharers(): how often is the first page mapped

For a THP: entire mapcount of the THP (PMD-mapping) + mapcount of *the 
first subpage* (PTE-mapping) only


For the time being, folio_estimated_sharers() is better then 
folio_mapcount(), because for a PTE-mapped THP folio_mapcount() > 1.

I'm looking into a replacement for folio_estimated_sharers() that is 
more precise ("folio_mapped_shared()"), but it's all a bit tricky. :)

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-15 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-08  2:09 [PATCH v2 0/3] don't use mapcount() to check large folio sharing Yin Fengwei
2023-08-08  2:09 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] madvise:madvise_cold_or_pageout_pte_range(): don't use mapcount() against large folio for sharing check Yin Fengwei
2023-08-08  2:09 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] madvise:madvise_free_huge_pmd(): " Yin Fengwei
2023-08-08  2:49   ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-08  2:09 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] madvise:madvise_free_pte_range(): " Yin Fengwei
     [not found]   ` <CGME20230815132509eucas1p1b34b2852a9c4efe743c8da82867c4cc3@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2023-08-15 13:25     ` Daniel Gomez
2023-08-15 13:41       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-08-15 23:30       ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-16 11:44         ` Daniel Gomez
2023-08-16 12:04           ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-08-16 14:13             ` Daniel Gomez
2023-08-16 15:11               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-17  7:57                 ` Daniel Gomez
2023-08-08  2:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] don't use mapcount() to check large folio sharing Yu Zhao
2023-08-08  4:10   ` Yin, Fengwei

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