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From: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
To: ryan.roberts@arm.com, david@redhat.com,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, willy@infradead.org,
	ziy@nvidia.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [QUESTION] anon_vma lock in khugepaged
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:40:08 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea15f3d3-5dd8-4404-8dab-5673bb5f3413@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241128062641.59096-1-dev.jain@arm.com>


On 28/11/24 11:56 am, Dev Jain wrote:
> Hi, I was looking at khugepaged code and I cannot figure out what will the problem be
> if we take the mmap lock in read mode. Shouldn't just taking the PMD lock, then PTL,
> then unlocking PTL, then unlocking PMD, solve any races with page table walkers?
>
>

Similar questions:

1. Why do we need anon_vma_lock_write() in collapse_huge_page()? AFAIK we need to walk anon_vma's either
    when we are forking or when we are unmapping a folio and need to find all VMAs mapping it; the former path takes the
    mmap_write_lock() and so we have no problem, and for the latter, if we just had anon_vma_lock_read(), then it
    may happen that kswapd isolates folio from LRU, and traverses rmap and swaps the folio out and khugepaged fails in
    folio_isolate_lru(), but then that is not a fatal problem but just a performance degradation due to a race (wherein
    the entire code is racy anyways). What am I missing?

2. In what all scenarios does rmap come into play? Fork, swapping out, any other I am missing?

3. Please confirm the correctness: In stark contrast to page migration, we do not need to do rmap walk and nuke all
    PTEs referencing the folio, because for anon non-shmem folios, the only way the folio can be shared is forking,
    and, if that is the case, folio_put() will not release the folio in __collapse_huge_page_copy_succeeded() -> free_page_and_swap_cache(),
    so the old folio is still there and child processes can read from it. Page migration requires that we are able
    to deallocate the old folios.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-12-05 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20241128062641.59096-1-dev.jain@arm.com>
     [not found] ` <d8d29152-ce3f-406d-9e95-a0e8ea2eabbf@redhat.com>
     [not found]   ` <4cb26a06-d982-4ca3-a5f7-7c6a6c63428c@arm.com>
     [not found]     ` <3d4c57dd-0821-4684-9018-db8274c170ec@redhat.com>
2024-11-29  7:10       ` [QUESTION] mmap " Dev Jain
2024-11-29 11:30         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-02  9:54           ` Dev Jain
2024-12-05 10:10 ` Dev Jain [this message]
2024-12-05 10:53   ` [QUESTION] anon_vma " David Hildenbrand

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