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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, mhocko@kernel.org, vdavydov.dev@gmail.com,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, mika.penttila@nextfour.com,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, songmuchun@bytedance.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/9] mm: free user PTE page table pages
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 18:19:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e8ebb0bb-b268-c43b-6fc1-e5240dc085c9@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210901161613.GN1721383@nvidia.com>

On 01.09.21 18:16, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 06:13:07PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 01.09.21 17:32, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 03:57:09PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> On 01.09.21 15:53, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 11:18:55AM +0800, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/mm/gup.c b/mm/gup.c
>>>>>> index 2630ed1bb4f4..30757f3b176c 100644
>>>>>> +++ b/mm/gup.c
>>>>>> @@ -500,6 +500,9 @@ static struct page *follow_page_pte(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>>>>>     	if (unlikely(pmd_bad(*pmd)))
>>>>>>     		return no_page_table(vma, flags);
>>>>>> +	if (!pte_try_get(mm, pmd))
>>>>>> +		return no_page_table(vma, flags);
>>>>>> +
>>>>>>     	ptep = pte_offset_map_lock(mm, pmd, address, &ptl);
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not good on a performance path, the pte_try_get() is
>>>>> locking/locking the same lock that pte_offset_map_lock() is getting.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, and we really need patch #8, anything else is just confusing reviewers.
>>>
>>> It is a bit better with patch 8, but it is still not optimal, we don't
>>> need to do the atomic work at all if the entire ptep is accessed while
>>> locked. So the above is stil not what I would expect here, even with
>>> RCU.
>>>
>>> eg I would expect that this kind of change would work first with the
>>> existing paired acessors, ie
>>>
>>> 	pte = pte_offset_map(pmd, address);
>>> 	pte_unmap(pte);
>>>
>>> Should handle the refcount under the covers, and same kind of idea for
>>> the _locked/_unlocked varient.
>>
>> See my other mail.
> 
> Do you have a reference?

Reply to the other mail you just send.

> 
>>> Only places that don't already use that pairing should get modified.
>>>
>>> To do this we have to extend the API so that pte_offset_map() can
>>> fail, or very cleverly return some kind of global non-present pte page
>>> (I wonder if the zero page would work?)
>>
>> I explored both ideas (returning NULL, return a specially prepared page) and
>> it didn't work in some cases where we unmap+remap etc.
> 
> I wouldn't think it works everywhere, bit it works in a lot of places,
> and it is a heck of a lot better than what is proposed here. I'd
> rather see the places that can use it be moved, and the few places
> that can't be opencoded.

Well, I used ptep_get_map_lock() and friends. But hacking directly into 
ptep_map_lock() and friends wasn't possible due to all the corner cases.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-01 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-19  3:18 [PATCH v2 0/9] Free " Qi Zheng
2021-08-19  3:18 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] mm: introduce pmd_install() helper Qi Zheng
2021-08-24 16:26   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-25 16:20     ` Qi Zheng
2021-08-25 16:32       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-26  3:04         ` Qi Zheng
2021-08-19  3:18 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] mm: remove redundant smp_wmb() Qi Zheng
2021-08-19  3:18 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] mm: rework the parameter of lock_page_or_retry() Qi Zheng
2021-08-19  3:18 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] mm: move pte_alloc{,_map,_map_lock}() to a separate file Qi Zheng
2021-08-19  3:18 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] mm: pte_refcount infrastructure Qi Zheng
2021-08-19  3:18 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] mm: free user PTE page table pages Qi Zheng
2021-08-19  7:01   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-19 10:18     ` [External] " Qi Zheng
2021-09-01 13:53   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-01 13:57     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-09-01 15:32       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-01 16:13         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-09-01 16:16           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-01 16:19             ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-09-01 17:10               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-01 17:49                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-09-01 17:55                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-01 17:58                     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-09-01 18:09                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-01 18:10                         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-09-02  7:04                     ` Qi Zheng
2021-09-02  6:53         ` Qi Zheng
2021-08-19  3:18 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] mm: add THP support for pte_ref Qi Zheng
2021-08-19  3:18 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] mm: free PTE page table by using rcu mechanism Qi Zheng
2021-08-19  3:18 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] mm: use mmu_gather to free PTE page table Qi Zheng
2021-09-01 12:32 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] Free user PTE page table pages David Hildenbrand
2021-09-01 16:07   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-01 16:10     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-09-02  3:37   ` Qi Zheng
2021-09-15 14:52   ` Qi Zheng
2021-09-15 14:59     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-16  5:32       ` Qi Zheng
2021-09-16  8:30         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-09-16  8:41           ` Qi Zheng

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