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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 00/10] mm: Introduce and use folio_owner_ops
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:10:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e82d7a46-8749-429c-82fa-0c996c858f4a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZzLnFh1_4yYao_Yz@casper.infradead.org>

On 12.11.24 06:26, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 08:26:54AM +0000, Fuad Tabba wrote:
>> Thanks for your comments Jason, and for clarifying my cover letter
>> David. I think David has covered everything, and I'll make sure to
>> clarify this in the cover letter when I respin.
> 
> I don't want you to respin.  I think this is a bad idea.

I'm hoping you'll find some more time to explain what exactly you don't 
like, because this series only refactors what we already have.

I enjoy seeing the special casing (especially hugetlb) gone from mm/swap.c.

I don't particularly enjoy overlaying folio->lru, primarily because we 
have to temporarily "evacuate" it when someone wants to make use of 
folio->lru (e.g., hugetlb isolation). So it's not completely "sticky", 
at least for hugetlb.

Overlaying folio->mapping, similar to how "struct movable_operations" 
overlay page->mapping is not an option, because folio->mapping will be 
used for other purposes.


We'd need some sticky and reliable way to tell folio freeing code that 
someone wants to intercept when the refcount of that folio goes to 0, 
and identify who to notify.

Maybe folio->private/page->private could be overlayed? hugetlb only uses 
folio->private for flags, which we could move to some other tail page 
(e.g., simply putting them into flags1).

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-12  9:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-08 16:20 Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/10] mm/hugetlb: rename isolate_hugetlb() to folio_isolate_hugetlb() Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/10] mm/migrate: don't call folio_putback_active_hugetlb() on dst hugetlb folio Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/10] mm/hugetlb: rename "folio_putback_active_hugetlb()" to "folio_putback_hugetlb()" Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/10] mm/hugetlb-cgroup: convert hugetlb_cgroup_css_offline() to work on folios Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/10] mm/hugetlb: use folio->lru int demote_free_hugetlb_folios() Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/10] mm/hugetlb: use separate folio->_hugetlb_list for hugetlb-internals Fuad Tabba
2024-11-12 15:28   ` wang wei
2024-11-12 15:48     ` [RFC " David Hildenbrand
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/10] mm: Introduce struct folio_owner_ops Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/10] mm: Use getters and setters to access page pgmap Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/10] mm: Use owner_ops on folio_put for zone device pages Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 16:20 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/10] mm: hugetlb: Use owner_ops on folio_put for hugetlb Fuad Tabba
2024-11-08 17:05 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/10] mm: Introduce and use folio_owner_ops Jason Gunthorpe
2024-11-08 19:33   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-11  8:26     ` Fuad Tabba
2024-11-12  5:26       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-12  9:10         ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-11-12 13:53           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-11-12 14:22             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-13  4:57               ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-11-13 11:27                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-14  4:02                 ` John Hubbard

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