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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Matthew Wilcox' <willy@infradead.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
Cc: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Yue Zhao <findns94@gmail.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"hannes@cmpxchg.org" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"mhocko@kernel.org" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"muchun.song@linux.dev" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	"cgroups@vger.kernel.org" <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] mm: change memcg->oom_group access with atomic operations
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 09:01:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e7f5f9686a5d4872a2e530550228718f@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y/TMYa8DrocppXRu@casper.infradead.org>

From: Matthew Wilcox
> Sent: 21 February 2023 13:51
...
> > For this particular case, documenting such an access. Though I don't
> > think there are any architectures which may tear a one byte read/write
> > and merging/refetching is not an issue for this.
> 
> Wouldn't a compiler be within its rights to implement a one byte store as:
> 
> 	load-word
> 	modify-byte-in-word
> 	store-word
> 
> and if this is a lockless store to a word which has an adjacent byte also
> being modified by another CPU, one of those CPUs can lose its store?
> And WRITE_ONCE would prevent the compiler from implementing the store
> in that way.

Some alpha cpu couldn't do byte memory accesses - so always
did 32bit read-modify-write. But Linux doesn't support those
ones any more.

On arm 16bit structure members can be accessed with 32bit
instructions because the 16bit ones have a smaller offset.

On x86 the bit operations might access the (possibly misaligned)
32bit word containing the required bit - but they are locked.

ISTR a problem where gcc was using wider instructions and
doing a RMW on an adjacent volatile field.

I really can't remember the justification for not marking
fields that have unlocked accesses 'volatile' instead of
requiring all the accesses be done as explicit volatile ones.

	David

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-22  9:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-20 15:16 Yue Zhao
2023-02-20 21:09 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-20 23:06   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-02-21  5:17     ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21  6:52       ` Shakeel Butt
2023-02-21 13:51         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-21 16:56           ` Shakeel Butt
2023-02-21 18:23             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-21 22:23               ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21 22:38                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-21 23:13                   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-02-21 23:38                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-21 23:57                       ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-22  0:37                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-22  4:28                           ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21 17:47           ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21 18:15             ` Shakeel Butt
2023-02-21 18:18             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-22  9:01           ` David Laight [this message]
2023-02-21 17:00         ` Martin Zhao
2023-02-21  7:22       ` Muchun Song
2023-02-21 17:48         ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21 17:00       ` Martin Zhao
2023-02-21 18:02         ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21  8:26     ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-21 17:00       ` Martin Zhao

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