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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-unstable v1] mm: add a total mapcount for large folios
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 10:59:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e5e29217-11d3-a84b-9e29-44acc72222f3@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZNQD4pxo8svpGmvX@x1n>

On 09.08.23 23:23, Peter Xu wrote:
> Hi, David,
> 
> Some pure questions below..

Hi Peter,

thanks for having a look!

[...]

>> With sub-PMD THP becoming more important and things looking promising
>> that we will soon get support for such anon THP, we want to avoid looping
>> over all pages of a folio just to calculate the total mapcount. Further,
>> we may soon want to use the total mapcount in other context more
>> frequently, so prepare for reading it efficiently and atomically.
> 
> Any (perhaps existing) discussion on reduced loops vs added atomic
> field/ops?

So far it's not been raised as a concern, so no existing discussion.

For order-0 pages the behavior is unchanged.

For PMD-mapped THP and hugetlb it's most certainly noise compared to the 
other activities when (un)mapping these large pages.

For PTE-mapped THP, it might be a bit bigger noise, although I doubt it 
is really significant (judging from my experience on managing 
PageAnonExclusive using set_bit/test_bit/clear_bit when (un)mapping anon 
pages).

As folio_add_file_rmap_range() indicates, for PTE-mapped THPs we should 
be batching where possible (and Ryan is working on some more rmap 
batching). There, managing the subpage mapcount dominates all other 
overhead significantly.

> 
> I had a feeling that there's some discussion behind the proposal of this
> patch, if that's the case it'll be great to attach the link in the commit
> log.

There were (mostly offline) discussions on how to sort out some other 
issues that PTE-mapped THP are facing, and how to eventually get rid of 
the subpage mapcounts (once consumer being _nr_pages_mapped as spelled 
out in the patch description). Having a proper total mapcount available 
was discussed as one building block.

I don't think I have anything of value to link that would make sense for 
the patch as is, as this patch is mostly independent from all that.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-10  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-09  8:32 David Hildenbrand
2023-08-09 15:45 ` Zi Yan
2023-08-09 19:07 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-09 19:17   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10 10:40     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-10 11:14     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10 11:27       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10 11:32         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10 11:35           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-09 19:21   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-09 19:26     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10  3:14       ` Yin Fengwei
2023-08-09 21:23 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-10  3:25   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-10  8:37     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10 21:48       ` Peter Xu
2023-08-10 21:54         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-10 21:59           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 15:03             ` Peter Xu
2023-08-11 15:14               ` Zi Yan
2023-08-11 15:17               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10  8:59   ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-08-10 10:48     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-10 17:15       ` Peter Xu
2023-08-10 17:47         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10 19:02           ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-10 20:57           ` Peter Xu
2023-08-10 21:48             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-08-10 22:27               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 15:18                 ` Peter Xu
2023-08-11 15:32                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 15:58                     ` Peter Xu
2023-08-11 16:08                       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 16:11                         ` Zi Yan
2023-08-11 22:18                           ` Peter Xu
2023-08-10 22:16             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10  3:24 ` Yin Fengwei

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