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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	John Hubbard <john.hubbard@gmail.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: set PG_dma_pinned on get_user_pages*()
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 19:03:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e50e24f9-7867-48af-bfb2-2aa3c46cfd50@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4iZU3Cin589Tg2g=NN5XoTosbsosf27frxBCWznB+X8ng@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/19/2018 06:57 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 6:34 PM, John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com> wrote:
>> On 06/19/2018 06:24 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:11 AM, John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com> wrote:
>>>> On 06/19/2018 03:41 AM, Jan Kara wrote:
>>>>> On Tue 19-06-18 02:02:55, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 10:29:49AM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
>>> [..]
>>>>> And then there's the aspect that both these approaches are a bit too
>>>>> heavyweight for some get_user_pages_fast() users (e.g. direct IO) - Al Viro
>>>>> had an idea to use page lock for that path but e.g. fs/direct-io.c would have
>>>>> problems due to lock ordering constraints (filesystem ->get_block would
>>>>> suddently get called with the page lock held). But we can probably leave
>>>>> performance optimizations for phase two.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So I assume that phase one would be to apply this approach only to
>>>> get_user_pages_longterm. (Please let me know if that's wrong.)
>>>
>>> I think that's wrong, because get_user_pages_longterm() is only a
>>> filesystem-dax avoidance mechanism, it's not trying to address all the
>>> problems that Jan is talking about. I don't see any viable half-step
>>> solutions.
>>>
>>
>> OK, but in that case, I'm slightly confused by Jan's comment above, about leaving
>> performance optimizations until phase two. Because that *is* a half-step approach:
>> phase one, phase two.
> 
> No, sorry, I might be confusing things. The half step is leaving
> truncate broken, or my strawman that only addressed unmap.
> 
>> Are you disagreeing with Jan, or are you suggesting "fix get_user_pages first, and
>> leave get_user_pages_fast alone for now?"
> 
> I'm agreeing with Jan, we need to fix page_mkclean() and
> try_to_unmap() without regressing truncate behavior.
> 

OK, perfect, thanks for clarifying.  It all sounds consistent now. :)

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-20  2:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-17  1:25 [PATCH 0/2] mm: gup: don't unmap or drop filesystem buffers john.hubbard
2018-06-17  1:25 ` [PATCH 1/2] consolidate get_user_pages error handling john.hubbard
2018-06-17  1:25 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: set PG_dma_pinned on get_user_pages*() john.hubbard
2018-06-17 19:53   ` Dan Williams
2018-06-17 20:04     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-06-17 20:10       ` Dan Williams
2018-06-17 20:28         ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18  8:12           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-18 17:50             ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18 17:56               ` Dan Williams
2018-06-18 18:14                 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18 19:21                   ` Dan Williams
2018-06-18 19:31                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-06-18 20:04                       ` Dan Williams
2018-06-18 21:36                     ` John Hubbard
2018-06-19  8:29                       ` Jan Kara
2018-06-19  9:02                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-06-19 10:41                           ` Jan Kara
2018-06-19 18:11                             ` John Hubbard
2018-06-20  1:24                               ` Dan Williams
2018-06-20  1:34                                 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-20  1:57                                   ` Dan Williams
2018-06-20  2:03                                     ` John Hubbard [this message]
2018-06-20 12:08                               ` Jan Kara
2018-06-20 22:55                                 ` John Hubbard
2018-06-21 16:30                                   ` Jan Kara
2018-06-25 15:21                                     ` Jan Kara
2018-06-25 19:03                                       ` John Hubbard
2018-06-26  7:52                                         ` Jan Kara
2018-06-26  6:31                                       ` John Hubbard
2018-06-26 11:48                                         ` Jan Kara
2018-06-26 13:47                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-26 16:48                       ` Jan Kara
2018-06-27 11:32                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-27 11:53                           ` Jan Kara
2018-06-27 11:59                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-27 12:42                               ` Jan Kara
2018-06-27 14:57                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-06-27 17:02                                   ` Jan Kara
2018-06-28  2:42                                     ` John Hubbard
2018-06-28  9:17                                       ` Jan Kara
2018-07-02  5:52                                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-07-02  6:10                                           ` John Hubbard
2018-07-02  6:34                                             ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-07-02  6:41                                               ` John Hubbard
2018-07-02 10:36                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02  7:02                                             ` Jan Kara
2018-07-02 14:48                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02  6:58                                           ` Jan Kara
2018-06-18  8:11         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-19  6:15           ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-06-17 22:19     ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18  7:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-18 17:44     ` John Hubbard
2018-06-17 21:54 ` [PATCH 0/2] mm: gup: don't unmap or drop filesystem buffers Christopher Lameter
2018-06-17 22:23   ` John Hubbard
2018-06-18  8:10   ` Christoph Hellwig

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