From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] slub: Make PREEMPT_RT support less convoluted
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2022 15:54:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e3f9bde2-7754-491a-78c0-a4a37dacbdd5@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YwYm31FKQJh/CVBn@linutronix.de>
On 8/24/22 15:25, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2022-08-23 19:15:43 [+0200], Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>> +#define slub_local_irq_save(flags) local_irq_save(flags)
>>> +#define slub_local_irq_restore(flags) local_irq_restore(flags)
>>
>> Note these won't be neccessary anymore after
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20220823170400.26546-6-vbabka@suse.cz/T/#u
>
> Okay, let me postpone that one and rebase what is left on top.
>
>>> @@ -482,7 +488,7 @@ static inline bool __cmpxchg_double_slab(struct kmem_cache *s, struct slab *slab
>>> void *freelist_new, unsigned long counters_new,
>>> const char *n)
>>> {
>>> - if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT))
>>> + if (use_lockless_fast_path())
>>> lockdep_assert_irqs_disabled();
>>
>> This test would stay after the patch I referenced above. But while this
>> change will keep testing the technically correct thing, the name would be
>> IMHO misleading here, as this is semantically not about the lockless fast
>> path, but whether we need to have irqs disabled to avoid a deadlock due to
>> irq incoming when we hold the bit_spin_lock() and its handler trying to
>> acquire it as well.
>
> Color me confused. Memory is never allocated in-IRQ context on
> PREEMPT_RT. Therefore I don't understand why interrupts must be disabled
> for the fast path (unless that comment only applied to !RT).
Yes that only applied to !RT. Hence why the assert is there only for !RT.
> It could be about preemption since spinlock, local_lock don't disable
> preemption and so another allocation on the same CPU is possible. But
> then you say "we hold the bit_spin_lock()" and this one disables
> preemption. This means nothing can stop the bit_spin_lock() owner from
> making progress and since there is no memory allocation in-IRQ, we can't
> block on the same bit_spin_lock() on the same CPU.
Yeah, realizing that this is true on RT led to the recent patch I
referenced. Initially when converting SLUB to RT last year I didn't
realize this detail, and instead replaced the irq disabling done (only
on !RT) by e.g. local_lock_irqsave with the manual local_irq_save().
> Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-24 13:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20220817162703.728679-1-bigeasy@linutronix.de>
2022-08-17 16:26 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-18 9:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2022-08-18 14:37 ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-08-18 15:22 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-19 15:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2022-08-25 5:15 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-08-18 17:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-23 17:15 ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-08-24 13:25 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-24 13:54 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2022-08-24 13:57 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-17 16:26 ` [PATCH 4/9] mm/vmstat: Use preempt_[dis|en]able_nested() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-17 16:26 ` [PATCH 5/9] mm/debug: Provide VM_WARN_ON_IRQS_ENABLED() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-17 16:27 ` [PATCH 6/9] mm/memcontrol: Replace the PREEMPT_RT conditionals Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-17 16:59 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-08-18 2:45 ` Muchun Song
2022-08-17 16:27 ` [PATCH 7/9] mm/compaction: Get rid of RT ifdeffery Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-18 8:55 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2022-08-18 15:51 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-24 13:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
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