From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jinjiang Tu <tujinjiang@huawei.com>,
osalvador@suse.de, nao.horiguchi@gmail.com,
zi.yan@cs.rutgers.edu, linux-mm@kvack.org,
wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com, sunnanyong@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/memory_hotplug: fix call folio_test_large with tail page in do_migrate_range
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2025 09:07:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e211daa4-165d-4a77-a677-0079ccd76396@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250406185924.451276bf79b7a26fe5ae7ae4@linux-foundation.org>
On 07.04.25 03:59, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2025 18:44:06 +0200 David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On 29.03.25 00:37, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>> On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 20:05:50 +0100 David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 25.03.25 04:02, Jinjiang Tu wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Moving that will not make it able to skip the large frozen
>>>>>> (refcount==0, e.g., free hugetlb) folio in the continue/put_folio case
>>>>>> above. Hmmmm ..
>>>>> For free hugetlb, pfn is increased by 1 in each loop. This leads to skip
>>>>> free hugetlb slower.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. But now I realize that we have the same issue with free buddy pages
>>>> already (folio_try_get of each individual page :( ).
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We could similarly to dumping folios, snapshot them, so we can read
>>>>>> stable data.
>>>>> extract the code in __dump_page()? But snapshot may lead to
>>>>> do_migrate_range() slower too.
>>>>
>>>> There is a patch series on the list to do that, but it might take a
>>>> while to clean that up. Ideally, we'd also jump over free buddy pages.
>>>> In the future we might have better ways to do that.
>>>>
>>>> I don't consider this change here really important, but if all it
>>>> affects is free hugetlb folios, it's not really worth it to have this
>>>> code around.
>>>>
>>>> Acked-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>>>>
>>>> But: I suspect 8135d8926c08 is not the introducing commit. Please re-verify.
>>>>
>>>> We should not CC stable.
>>>
>>
>> Sorry for the late reply.
>>
>>> Why shouldn't we cc:stable? A userspace-triggerable BUG?
>>
>> My reasoning was that it's a VM_BUG_ON_PAGE, and nothing is actually
>> broken on !CONFIG_DEBUG_VM systems ... combined with hugetlb allocation
>> and memory offlining usually being rare and usually privileged operations.
>>
>> It would be a different story if the VM_BUG_ON_PAGE revealed an actual
>> issue; but this is a well documented race.
>>
>> One might argue that unplugging a DIMM could automatically trigger it
>> (rare operation ..), and as we discovered in the meantime, THPs are also
>> affected. But again, CONFIG_VM_DEBUG ... which even Fedora stopped setting.
>>
>> So I don't think CC stable is warranted here, but I wouldn't object if
>> there are good reasons to do it: like assuming that there are
>> CONFIG_VM_DEBUG stable users out there that rely on these features.
>
> Oh. I thought that quite a few distros use CONFIG_DEBUG_VM.
Fedora used to be the prime example people kept mentioning. But they
stopped using it for performance reasons IIRC.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-07 7:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-24 13:17 Jinjiang Tu
2025-03-24 13:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-25 3:02 ` Jinjiang Tu
2025-03-25 13:18 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-03-25 19:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-26 2:40 ` Jinjiang Tu
2025-03-26 12:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-27 11:19 ` Jinjiang Tu
2025-03-28 23:37 ` Andrew Morton
2025-04-01 16:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-07 1:59 ` Andrew Morton
2025-04-07 7:07 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-03-28 13:23 ` Oscar Salvador
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