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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>,
	mkoutny@suse.com, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Implement numa node notifier
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 15:02:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e1ebfafa-f063-4340-b577-d1b6b2fb5d11@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z-1tzl2NqqRUYyU-@localhost.localdomain>

On 02.04.25 19:03, Oscar Salvador wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 06:06:51PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> What if we had two chains:
>>
>> register_node_notifier()
>> register_node_normal_notifier()
>>
>> I think they could have shared the state #defines and struct node_notify
>> would have just one nid and be always >= 0.
>>
>> Or would it add too much extra boilerplate and only slab cares?
> 
> We could indeed go on that direction to try to decouple
> status_change_nid from status_change_nid_normal.
> 
> Although as you said, slub is the only user of status_change_nid_normal
> for the time beign, so I am not sure of adding a second chain for only
> one user.
> 
> Might look cleaner though, and the advantatge is that slub would not get
> notified for nodes adquiring only ZONE_MOVABLE.
> 
> Let us see what David thinks about it.

I'd hope we'd be able to get rid of the _normal stuff completely, it's seems
way to specialized.

We added that in

commit b9d5ab2562eceeada5e4837a621b6260574dd11d
Author: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>
Date:   Tue Dec 11 16:01:05 2012 -0800

     slub, hotplug: ignore unrelated node's hot-adding and hot-removing
     
     SLUB only focuses on the nodes which have normal memory and it ignores the
     other node's hot-adding and hot-removing.
     
     Aka: if some memory of a node which has no onlined memory is online, but
     this new memory onlined is not normal memory (for example, highmem), we
     should not allocate kmem_cache_node for SLUB.
     
     And if the last normal memory is offlined, but the node still has memory,
     we should remove kmem_cache_node for that node.  (The current code delays
     it when all of the memory is offlined)
     
     So we only do something when marg->status_change_nid_normal > 0.
     marg->status_change_nid is not suitable here.
     
     The same problem doesn't exist in SLAB, because SLAB allocates kmem_list3
     for every node even the node don't have normal memory, SLAB tolerates
     kmem_list3 on alien nodes.  SLUB only focuses on the nodes which have
     normal memory, it don't tolerate alien kmem_cache_node.  The patch makes
     SLUB become self-compatible and avoids WARNs and BUGs in rare conditions.


How "bad" would it be if we do the slab_mem_going_online_callback() etc even
for completely-movable nodes? I assume one kmem_cache_alloc() per slab_caches.

slab_mem_going_offline_callback() only does shrinking, #dontcare

Looking at slab_mem_offline_callback(), we never even free the caches either
way when offlining. So the implication would be that we would have movable-only nodes
set in slab_nodes.


We don't expect many such nodes, so ... do we care?

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-03 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-01  9:27 Oscar Salvador
2025-04-01  9:27 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm,memory_hotplug: " Oscar Salvador
2025-04-01 14:19   ` Harry Yoo
2025-04-02 16:03   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-04-02 16:57     ` Oscar Salvador
2025-04-03 12:44   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-04-04 10:09   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-04 12:56     ` Oscar Salvador
2025-04-04 13:14       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-01  9:27 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,memory_hotplug: Replace status_change_nid parameter in memory_notify Oscar Salvador
2025-04-02  2:53   ` Harry Yoo
2025-04-02 16:09   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-04-02 16:06 ` [PATCH 0/2] Implement numa node notifier Vlastimil Babka
2025-04-02 17:03   ` Oscar Salvador
2025-04-03 13:02     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-04-03 13:08       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-03 13:57         ` Harry Yoo
2025-04-04  8:47         ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-04-03 22:06       ` Harry Yoo
2025-04-04  8:50         ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-04-04 10:02           ` Harry Yoo
2025-04-03 12:29 ` Jonathan Cameron

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