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From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>, Vernon Yang <vernon2gm@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@kernel.org,
	lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, ziy@nvidia.com, dev.jain@arm.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Vernon Yang <yanglincheng@kylinos.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm-new v7 4/5] mm: khugepaged: skip lazy-free folios
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2026 21:51:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e106bb45-5563-4b9b-bcb5-defd6e204c79@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4zxAmDS+FWzfX-670W3H3LM=nUZ-gGe3jMV9tYM0E_EaA@mail.gmail.com>



On 2026/2/7 16:34, Barry Song wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2026 at 4:16 PM Vernon Yang <vernon2gm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Vernon Yang <yanglincheng@kylinos.cn>
>>
>> For example, create three task: hot1 -> cold -> hot2. After all three
>> task are created, each allocate memory 128MB. the hot1/hot2 task
>> continuously access 128 MB memory, while the cold task only accesses
>> its memory briefly and then call madvise(MADV_FREE). However, khugepaged
>> still prioritizes scanning the cold task and only scans the hot2 task
>> after completing the scan of the cold task.
>>
>> And if we collapse with a lazyfree page, that content will never be none
>> and the deferred shrinker cannot reclaim them.
>>
>> So if the user has explicitly informed us via MADV_FREE that this memory
>> will be freed, it is appropriate for khugepaged to skip it only, thereby
>> avoiding unnecessary scan and collapse operations to reducing CPU
>> wastage.
>>
>> Here are the performance test results:
>> (Throughput bigger is better, other smaller is better)
>>
>> Testing on x86_64 machine:
>>
>> | task hot2           | without patch | with patch    |  delta  |
>> |---------------------|---------------|---------------|---------|
>> | total accesses time |  3.14 sec     |  2.93 sec     | -6.69%  |
>> | cycles per access   |  4.96         |  2.21         | -55.44% |
>> | Throughput          |  104.38 M/sec |  111.89 M/sec | +7.19%  |
>> | dTLB-load-misses    |  284814532    |  69597236     | -75.56% |
>>
>> Testing on qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm:
>>
>> | task hot2           | without patch | with patch    |  delta  |
>> |---------------------|---------------|---------------|---------|
>> | total accesses time |  3.35 sec     |  2.96 sec     | -11.64% |
>> | cycles per access   |  7.29         |  2.07         | -71.60% |
>> | Throughput          |  97.67 M/sec  |  110.77 M/sec | +13.41% |
>> | dTLB-load-misses    |  241600871    |  3216108      | -98.67% |
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Vernon Yang <yanglincheng@kylinos.cn>
>> Acked-by: David Hildenbrand (arm) <david@kernel.org>
>> Reviewed-by: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
>> ---
>>   include/trace/events/huge_memory.h |  1 +
>>   mm/khugepaged.c                    | 13 +++++++++++++
>>   2 files changed, 14 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/include/trace/events/huge_memory.h b/include/trace/events/huge_memory.h
>> index 384e29f6bef0..bcdc57eea270 100644
>> --- a/include/trace/events/huge_memory.h
>> +++ b/include/trace/events/huge_memory.h
>> @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@
>>          EM( SCAN_PAGE_LRU,              "page_not_in_lru")              \
>>          EM( SCAN_PAGE_LOCK,             "page_locked")                  \
>>          EM( SCAN_PAGE_ANON,             "page_not_anon")                \
>> +       EM( SCAN_PAGE_LAZYFREE,         "page_lazyfree")                \
>>          EM( SCAN_PAGE_COMPOUND,         "page_compound")                \
>>          EM( SCAN_ANY_PROCESS,           "no_process_for_page")          \
>>          EM( SCAN_VMA_NULL,              "vma_null")                     \
>> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
>> index 8b68ae3bc2c5..0d160e612e16 100644
>> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
>> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
>> @@ -46,6 +46,7 @@ enum scan_result {
>>          SCAN_PAGE_LRU,
>>          SCAN_PAGE_LOCK,
>>          SCAN_PAGE_ANON,
>> +       SCAN_PAGE_LAZYFREE,
>>          SCAN_PAGE_COMPOUND,
>>          SCAN_ANY_PROCESS,
>>          SCAN_VMA_NULL,
>> @@ -583,6 +584,12 @@ static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_isolate(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>                  folio = page_folio(page);
>>                  VM_BUG_ON_FOLIO(!folio_test_anon(folio), folio);
>>
>> +               if (cc->is_khugepaged && !pte_dirty(pteval) &&
>> +                   folio_test_lazyfree(folio)) {
> 
> We have two corner cases here:

Good catch!

> 
> 1. Even if a lazyfree folio is dirty, if the VMA has the VM_DROPPABLE flag,
> a lazyfree folio may still be dropped, even when its PTE is dirty.

Right. When the VMA has VM_DROPPABLE, we would drop the lazyfree folio
regardless of whether it (or the PTE) is dirty in try_to_unmap_one().

So, IMHO, we could go with:

cc->is_khugepaged && folio_test_lazyfree(folio) &&
	(!pte_dirty(pteval) || (vma->vm_flags & VM_DROPPABLE))

> 
> 2.  GUP operation can cause a folio to become dirty.

Emm... I don't think we need to do anything special for GUP here :)

IIUC, if the range is pinned, MADV_COLLAPSE/khugepaged already fails;
We hit the refcount check in hpage_collapse_scan_pmd() (expected vs
actual refcount) and return -EAGAIN.

```
		/*
		 * Check if the page has any GUP (or other external) pins.
		 *
		 * Here the check may be racy:
		 * it may see folio_mapcount() > folio_ref_count().
		 * But such case is ephemeral we could always retry collapse
		 * later.  However it may report false positive if the page
		 * has excessive GUP pins (i.e. 512).  Anyway the same check
		 * will be done again later the risk seems low.
		 */
		if (folio_expected_ref_count(folio) != folio_ref_count(folio)) {
			result = SCAN_PAGE_COUNT;
			goto out_unmap;
		}
```
Cheers,
Lance

> 
> I see the corner cases from try_to_unmap_one():
> 
>                                  if (folio_test_dirty(folio) &&
> !(vma->vm_flags & VM_DROPPABLE)) {
>                                          /*
>                                           * redirtied either using the
> page table or a previously
>                                           * obtained GUP reference.
>                                           */
>                                          set_ptes(mm, address,
> pvmw.pte, pteval, nr_pages);
>                                          folio_set_swapbacked(folio);
>                                          goto walk_abort;
>                                  }
> 
> Should we take these two corner cases into account?
> 
> 
>> +                       result = SCAN_PAGE_LAZYFREE;
>> +                       goto out;
>> +               }
>> +
>>                  /* See hpage_collapse_scan_pmd(). */
>>                  if (folio_maybe_mapped_shared(folio)) {
>>                          ++shared;
>> @@ -1335,6 +1342,12 @@ static enum scan_result hpage_collapse_scan_pmd(struct mm_struct *mm,
>>                  }
>>                  folio = page_folio(page);
>>
>> +               if (cc->is_khugepaged && !pte_dirty(pteval) &&
>> +                   folio_test_lazyfree(folio)) {
>> +                       result = SCAN_PAGE_LAZYFREE;
>> +                       goto out_unmap;
>> +               }
>> +
>>                  if (!folio_test_anon(folio)) {
>>                          result = SCAN_PAGE_ANON;
>>                          goto out_unmap;
> 
> Thanks
> Barry



  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-07 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-07  8:16 [PATCH mm-new v7 0/5] Improve khugepaged scan logic Vernon Yang
2026-02-07  8:16 ` [PATCH mm-new v7 1/5] mm: khugepaged: add trace_mm_khugepaged_scan event Vernon Yang
2026-02-07  8:16 ` [PATCH mm-new v7 2/5] mm: khugepaged: refine scan progress number Vernon Yang
2026-02-08  9:17   ` Dev Jain
2026-02-08 13:25     ` Vernon Yang
2026-02-18  3:55   ` Vernon Yang
2026-02-18  8:05     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-07  8:16 ` [PATCH mm-new v7 3/5] mm: add folio_test_lazyfree helper Vernon Yang
2026-02-07  8:16 ` [PATCH mm-new v7 4/5] mm: khugepaged: skip lazy-free folios Vernon Yang
2026-02-07  8:34   ` Barry Song
2026-02-07 13:51     ` Lance Yang [this message]
2026-02-07 21:38       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-07 22:01         ` Barry Song
2026-02-07 22:05           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-07 22:17             ` Barry Song
2026-02-07 22:25               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-07 22:31                 ` Barry Song
2026-02-08 13:26                 ` Vernon Yang
2026-02-08  4:06         ` Lance Yang
2026-02-07  8:16 ` [PATCH mm-new v7 5/5] mm: khugepaged: set to next mm direct when mm has MMF_DISABLE_THP_COMPLETELY Vernon Yang
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-02-07  8:11 [PATCH mm-new v7 0/5] Improve khugepaged scan logic Vernon Yang
2026-02-07  8:11 ` [PATCH mm-new v7 4/5] mm: khugepaged: skip lazy-free folios Vernon Yang

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