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From: "Yang Shi" <yang.s@alibaba-inc.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: mhocko@kernel.org, cl@linux.com, penberg@kernel.org,
	rientjes@google.com, iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2 v8] oom: capture unreclaimable slab info in oom message
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2017 23:40:11 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e0531762-6ef7-d3bf-e6a2-91642b4eeb63@alibaba-inc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201709302000.GGD86407.OOHMJFSFQLFOtV@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>



On 9/30/17 4:00 AM, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Yang Shi wrote:
>> On 9/28/17 1:45 PM, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
>>> Yang Shi wrote:
>>>> On 9/28/17 12:57 PM, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
>>>>> Yang Shi wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/27/17 9:36 PM, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2017/09/28 6:46, Yang Shi wrote:
>>>>>>>> Changelog v7 -> v8:
>>>>>>>> * Adopted Michal’s suggestion to dump unreclaim slab info when unreclaimable slabs amount > total user memory. Not only in oom panic path.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Holding slab_mutex inside dump_unreclaimable_slab() was refrained since V2
>>>>>>> because there are
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 	mutex_lock(&slab_mutex);
>>>>>>> 	kmalloc(GFP_KERNEL);
>>>>>>> 	mutex_unlock(&slab_mutex);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> users. If we call dump_unreclaimable_slab() for non OOM panic path, aren't we
>>>>>>> introducing a risk of crash (i.e. kernel panic) for regular OOM path?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see the difference between regular oom path and oom path other
>>>>>> than calling panic() at last.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And, the slab dump may be called by panic path too, it is for both
>>>>>> regular and panic path.
>>>>>
>>>>> Calling a function that might cause kerneloops immediately before calling panic()
>>>>> would be tolerable, for the kernel will panic after all. But calling a function
>>>>> that might cause kerneloops when there is no plan to call panic() is a bug.
>>>>
>>>> I got your point. slab_mutex is used to protect the list of all the
>>>> slabs, since we are already in oom, there should be not kmem cache
>>>> destroy happen during the list traverse. And, list_for_each_entry() has
>>>> been replaced to list_for_each_entry_safe() to make the traverse more
>>>> robust.
>>>
>>> I consider that OOM event and kmem chache destroy event can run concurrently
>>> because slab_mutex is not held by OOM event (and unfortunately cannot be held
>>> due to possibility of deadlock) in order to protect the list of all the slabs.
>>>
>>> I don't think replacing list_for_each_entry() with list_for_each_entry_safe()
>>> makes the traverse more robust, for list_for_each_entry_safe() does not defer
>>> freeing of memory used by list element. Rather, replacing list_for_each_entry()
>>> with list_for_each_entry_rcu() (and making relevant changes such as
>>> rcu_read_lock()/rcu_read_unlock()/synchronize_rcu()) will make the traverse safe.
>>
>> I'm not sure if rcu could satisfy this case. rcu just can protect
>> slab_caches_to_rcu_destroy list, which is used by SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU
>> slabs.
> 
> I'm not sure why you are talking about SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU.
> What I meant is that
> 
>    Upon registration:
> 
>      // do initialize/setup stuff here
>      synchronize_rcu(); // <= for dump_unreclaimable_slab()
>      list_add_rcu(&kmem_cache->list, &slab_caches);
> 
>    Upon unregistration:
> 
>      list_del_rcu(&kmem_cache->list);
>      synchronize_rcu(); // <= for dump_unreclaimable_slab()
>      // do finalize/cleanup stuff here
> 
> then (if my understanding is correct)
> 
> 	rcu_read_lock();
> 	list_for_each_entry_rcu(s, &slab_caches, list) {
> 		if (!is_root_cache(s) || (s->flags & SLAB_RECLAIM_ACCOUNT))
> 			continue;
> 
> 		memset(&sinfo, 0, sizeof(sinfo));
> 		get_slabinfo(s, &sinfo);
> 
> 		if (sinfo.num_objs > 0)
> 			pr_info("%-17s %10luKB %10luKB\n", cache_name(s),
> 				(sinfo.active_objs * s->size) / 1024,
> 				(sinfo.num_objs * s->size) / 1024);
> 	}
> 	rcu_read_unlock();
> 
> will make dump_unreclaimable_slab() safe.

Thanks for the detailed description. However, it sounds this change is  
too much for slub, I'm not sure if this may change the subtle behavior  
of slub.

trylock sounds like a good alternative.

Yang

> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-02 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-27 21:46 Yang Shi
2017-09-27 21:46 ` [PATCH 1/2] tools: slabinfo: add "-U" option to show unreclaimable slabs only Yang Shi
2017-09-27 21:46 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: oom: show unreclaimable slab info when unreclaimable slabs > user memory Yang Shi
2017-10-01  6:19   ` Christopher Lameter
2017-09-28  4:36 ` [PATCH 0/2 v8] oom: capture unreclaimable slab info in oom message Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-28 17:49   ` Yang Shi
2017-09-28 19:57     ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-28 20:21       ` Yang Shi
2017-09-28 20:45         ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-29 22:15           ` Yang Shi
2017-09-30 11:00             ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-02 15:40               ` Yang Shi [this message]
2017-10-02 11:20   ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-02 15:46     ` Yang Shi

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