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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Richard Chang <richardycc@google.com>,
	 Brian Geffon <bgeffon@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Minchan Kim <minchan@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] zram: introduce compressed data writeback
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2025 18:09:37 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dt632m4jh2jt5fhnddcbgtdndxh6552hcbwpqeklfx6z7oaihz@lnhskip6whc6> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4z6kSvA+Yzqx=JQ4n3jhQRWn4zYMr364-V2Wjyb2wXE0A@mail.gmail.com>

On (25/12/01 16:59), Barry Song wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 11:56 AM Sergey Senozhatsky
> <senozhatsky@chromium.org> wrote:
> [...]
> > > > zram stores all written back slots raw, which implies that
> > > > during writeback zram first has to decompress slots (except
> > > > for ZRAM_HUGE slots, which are raw already).  The problem
> > > > with this approach is that not every written back page gets
> > > > read back (either via read() or via page-fault), which means
> > > > that zram basically wastes CPU cycles and battery decompressing
> > > > such slots.  This changes with introduction of decompression
> > >
> > > If a page is swapped out and never read again, does that actually indicate
> > > a memory leak in userspace?
> >
> > No, it just means that there is no page-fault on that page.  E.g. we
> > swapped out an unused browser tab and never come back to it within the
> > session: e.g. user closed the tab/app, or logged out of session, or
> > rebooted the device, or simply powered off (desktop/laptop).
> 
> Thanks, Sergey. That makes sense to me. On Android, users don’t have a
> close button, yet apps can still be OOM-killed; those pages are never
> swapped in.

I see.  I suppose on android you still can swipe up and terminate
un-needed apps, wouldn't this be the same?  Well, apart from that,
zram is not android-specific, some distros use it on desktops/laptops
as well.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-01  9:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-28 17:04 [PATCH 0/2] " Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-11-28 17:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-11-29  9:07   ` kernel test robot
2025-12-01  9:10     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-11-29  9:55   ` Barry Song
2025-12-01  3:56     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-12-01  8:59       ` Barry Song
2025-12-01  9:09         ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2025-12-01 18:00           ` Barry Song
2025-11-28 17:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] zram: rename zram_free_page() Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-12-01  7:39 ` [PATCH 0/2] zram: introduce compressed data writeback Sergey Senozhatsky

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