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From: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 06/13] KVM: x86: Generalize private fault lookups to guest_memfd fault lookups
Date: Fri, 02 May 2025 15:00:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <diqzjz6ypt9y.fsf@ackerleytng-ctop.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aBTxJvew1GvSczKY@google.com>

Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> writes:

> On Fri, May 02, 2025, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 30.04.25 20:58, Ackerley Tng wrote:
>> > > -	if (is_private)
>> > > +	if (is_gmem)
>> > >   		return max_level;
>> > 
>> > I think this renaming isn't quite accurate.
>> 
>> After our discussion yesterday, does that still hold true?
>
> No.
>
>> > IIUC in __kvm_mmu_max_mapping_level(), we skip considering
>> > host_pfn_mapping_level() if the gfn is private because private memory
>> > will not be mapped to userspace, so there's no need to query userspace
>> > page tables in host_pfn_mapping_level().
>> 
>> I think the reason was that: for private we won't be walking the user space
>> pages tables.
>> 
>> Once guest_memfd is also responsible for the shared part, why should this
>> here still be private-only, and why should we consider querying a user space
>> mapping that might not even exist?
>
> +1, one of the big selling points for guest_memfd beyond CoCo is that it provides
> guest-first memory.  It is very explicitly an intended feature that the guest
> mappings KVM creates can be a superset of the host userspace mappings.  E.g. the
> guest can use larger page sizes, have RW while the host has RO, etc.

Do you mean that __kvm_mmu_max_mapping_level() should, in addition to
the parameter renaming from is_private to is_gmem, do something like

if (is_gmem)
	return kvm_gmem_get_max_mapping_level(slot, gfn);

and basically defer to gmem as long as gmem should be used for this gfn?

There is another call to __kvm_mmu_max_mapping_level() via
kvm_mmu_max_mapping_level() beginning from recover_huge_pages_range(),
and IIUC that doesn't go through guest_memfd.

Hence, unlike the call to __kvm_mmu_max_mapping_level() from the KVM x86
MMU fault path, guest_memfd didn't get a chance to provide its input in
the form of returning max_order from kvm_gmem_get_pfn().


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-02 22:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-30 16:56 [PATCH v8 00/13] KVM: Mapping guest_memfd backed memory at the host for software protected VMs Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 01/13] KVM: Rename CONFIG_KVM_PRIVATE_MEM to CONFIG_KVM_GMEM Fuad Tabba
2025-05-01 17:38   ` Ira Weiny
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 02/13] KVM: Rename CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM to CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE Fuad Tabba
2025-05-01 18:10   ` Ira Weiny
2025-05-02  6:44     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-02 14:24       ` Ira Weiny
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 03/13] KVM: Rename kvm_arch_has_private_mem() to kvm_arch_supports_gmem() Fuad Tabba
2025-05-01 18:18   ` Ira Weiny
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 04/13] KVM: x86: Rename kvm->arch.has_private_mem to kvm->arch.supports_gmem Fuad Tabba
2025-05-01 18:19   ` Ira Weiny
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 05/13] KVM: Rename kvm_slot_can_be_private() to kvm_slot_has_gmem() Fuad Tabba
2025-05-01 21:37   ` Ira Weiny
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 06/13] KVM: x86: Generalize private fault lookups to guest_memfd fault lookups Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 18:58   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-01  9:53     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-02 15:04     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-02 16:21       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-02 22:00         ` Ackerley Tng [this message]
2025-05-05  8:01           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-05 22:57             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-06  5:17               ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-06  5:28                 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-06 13:58                   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-06 14:15                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-06 20:46                       ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-08 14:12                         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-08 14:46                         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-09 21:04                         ` James Houghton
2025-05-09 22:29                           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-09 22:38                             ` James Houghton
2025-05-06 19:27               ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-05 23:09             ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-05 23:17               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-01 21:38   ` Ira Weiny
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 07/13] KVM: Fix comments that refer to slots_lock Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 21:30   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-01 21:43   ` Ira Weiny
2025-05-02 12:07     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 08/13] KVM: guest_memfd: Allow host to map guest_memfd() pages Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 21:33   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-01  8:07     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-02 15:11   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-02 22:06     ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-02 22:29   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-06  8:47     ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-05 21:06   ` Ira Weiny
2025-05-06 12:15     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-09 20:54   ` James Houghton
2025-05-11  8:03     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-12  7:08       ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-12 19:29         ` James Houghton
2025-05-12  7:46       ` Roy, Patrick
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 09/13] KVM: arm64: Refactor user_mem_abort() calculation of force_pte Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 21:35   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 10/13] KVM: arm64: Handle guest_memfd()-backed guest page faults Fuad Tabba
2025-05-09 20:15   ` James Houghton
2025-05-12  7:07     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 11/13] KVM: arm64: Enable mapping guest_memfd in arm64 Fuad Tabba
2025-05-09 21:08   ` James Houghton
2025-05-12  6:55     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 12/13] KVM: x86: KVM_X86_SW_PROTECTED_VM to support guest_memfd shared memory Fuad Tabba
2025-04-30 16:56 ` [PATCH v8 13/13] KVM: guest_memfd: selftests: guest_memfd mmap() test when mapping is allowed Fuad Tabba

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