From: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 00/51] 1G page support for guest_memfd
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 16:19:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <diqzh602jdk8.fsf@ackerleytng-ctop.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1747264138.git.ackerleytng@google.com>
Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com> writes:
> Hello,
>
> This patchset builds upon discussion at LPC 2024 and many guest_memfd
> upstream calls to provide 1G page support for guest_memfd by taking
> pages from HugeTLB.
>
> [...]
At the guest_memfd upstream call today (2025-06-26), we talked about
when to merge folios with respect to conversions.
Just want to call out that in this RFCv2, we managed to get conversions
working with merges happening as soon as possible.
"As soon as possible" means merges happen as long as shareability is all
private (or all meaningless) within an aligned hugepage range. We try to
merge after every conversion request and on truncation. On truncation,
shareability becomes meaningless.
On explicit truncation (e.g. fallocate(PUNCH_HOLE)), truncation can fail
if there are unexpected refcounts (because we can't merge with
unexpected refcounts). Explicit truncation will succeed only if
refcounts are expected, and merge is performed before finally removing
from filemap.
On truncation caused by file close or inode release, guest_memfd may not
hold the last refcount on the folio. Only in this case, we defer merging
to the folio_put() callback, and because the callback can be called from
atomic context, the merge is further deferred to be performed by a
kernel worker.
Deferment of merging is already minimized so that most of the
restructuring is synchronous with some userspace-initiated action
(conversion or explicit truncation). The only deferred merge is when the
file is closed, and in that case there's no way to reject/fail this file
close.
(There are possible optimizations here - Yan suggested [1] checking if
the folio_put() was called from interrupt context - I have not tried
implementing that yet)
I did propose an explicit guest_memfd merge ioctl, but since RFCv2
works, I was thinking to to have the merge ioctl be a separate
optimization/project/patch series if it turns out that merging
as-soon-as-possible is an inefficient strategy, or if some VM use cases
prefer to have an explicit merge ioctl.
During the call, Michael also brought up that SNP adds some constraints
with respect to guest accepting pages/levels.
Could you please expand on that? Suppose for an SNP guest,
1. Guest accepted a page at 2M level
2. Guest converts a 4K sub page to shared
3. guest_memfd requests unmapping of the guest-requested 4K range
(the rest of the 2M remains mapped into stage 2 page tables)
4. guest_memfd splits the huge page to 4K pages (the 4K is set to
SHAREABILITY_ALL, the rest of the 2M is still SHAREABILITY_GUEST)
Can the SNP guest continue to use the rest of the 2M page or must it
re-accept all the pages at 4K?
And for the reverse:
1. Guest accepted a 2M range at 4K
2. guest_memfd merges the full 2M range to a single 2M page
Must the SNP guest re-accept at 2M for the guest to continue
functioning, or will the SNP guest continue to work (just with poorer
performance than if the memory was accepted at 2M)?
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/aDfT35EsYP%2FByf7Z@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com/
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2025-05-14 23:41 Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/51] KVM: guest_memfd: Make guest mem use guest mem inodes instead of anonymous inodes Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/51] KVM: guest_memfd: Introduce and use shareability to guard faulting Ackerley Tng
2025-05-27 3:54 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-29 18:20 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-30 8:53 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-30 18:32 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-02 9:43 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-27 8:25 ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-27 8:43 ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-29 18:26 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-29 20:37 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-29 5:42 ` Michael Roth
2025-06-11 21:51 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-02 23:25 ` Michael Roth
2025-07-03 0:46 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-03 0:52 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-03 4:12 ` Michael Roth
2025-07-03 5:10 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-03 20:39 ` Michael Roth
2025-07-07 14:55 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-12 0:10 ` Michael Roth
2025-07-12 17:53 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-08-12 8:23 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-08-13 17:11 ` Ira Weiny
2025-06-11 22:10 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-08-01 0:01 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-14 21:35 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/51] KVM: selftests: Update guest_memfd_test for INIT_PRIVATE flag Ackerley Tng
2025-05-15 13:49 ` Ira Weiny
2025-05-16 17:42 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-16 19:31 ` Ira Weiny
2025-05-27 8:53 ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-30 19:59 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/51] KVM: guest_memfd: Introduce KVM_GMEM_CONVERT_SHARED/PRIVATE ioctls Ackerley Tng
2025-05-15 14:50 ` Ira Weiny
2025-05-16 17:53 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-20 9:22 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-20 13:02 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-20 13:44 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-20 14:11 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-20 14:33 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-20 16:02 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-20 18:05 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-20 19:40 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-21 12:36 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 14:42 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-21 15:21 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 15:51 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-21 18:27 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-22 14:52 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-22 15:07 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-22 16:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-23 10:12 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-06-24 8:23 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-24 13:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-24 14:10 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-27 4:49 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-27 15:17 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-30 0:19 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-30 14:19 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-10 6:57 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-07-10 17:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-02 8:35 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-02 13:54 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-02 14:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-02 14:32 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-10 10:50 ` Xu Yilun
2025-07-10 17:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-11 4:31 ` Xu Yilun
2025-07-11 9:33 ` Xu Yilun
2025-07-16 22:22 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-17 9:32 ` Xu Yilun
2025-07-17 16:56 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-18 2:48 ` Xu Yilun
2025-07-18 14:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-21 14:18 ` Xu Yilun
2025-07-18 15:13 ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-21 9:58 ` Xu Yilun
2025-07-22 18:17 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-22 19:25 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-28 3:16 ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-30 20:10 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-03 0:54 ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/51] KVM: guest_memfd: Skip LRU for guest_memfd folios Ackerley Tng
2025-05-28 7:01 ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-30 20:32 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/51] KVM: Query guest_memfd for private/shared status Ackerley Tng
2025-05-27 3:55 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-28 8:08 ` Binbin Wu
2025-05-28 9:55 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/51] KVM: guest_memfd: Add CAP KVM_CAP_GMEM_CONVERSION Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/51] KVM: selftests: Test flag validity after guest_memfd supports conversions Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/51] KVM: selftests: Test faulting with respect to GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_INIT_PRIVATE Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/51] KVM: selftests: Refactor vm_mem_add to be more flexible Ackerley Tng
2025-10-02 22:10 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/51] KVM: selftests: Allow cleanup of ucall_pool from host Ackerley Tng
2025-10-02 18:43 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/51] KVM: selftests: Test conversion flows for guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/51] KVM: selftests: Add script to exercise private_mem_conversions_test Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/51] KVM: selftests: Update private_mem_conversions_test to mmap guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/51] KVM: selftests: Update script to map shared memory from guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/51] mm: hugetlb: Consolidate interpretation of gbl_chg within alloc_hugetlb_folio() Ackerley Tng
2025-05-15 2:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-05-28 8:55 ` Binbin Wu
2025-07-07 18:27 ` James Houghton
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/51] mm: hugetlb: Cleanup interpretation of gbl_chg in alloc_hugetlb_folio() Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/51] mm: hugetlb: Cleanup interpretation of map_chg_state within alloc_hugetlb_folio() Ackerley Tng
2025-07-07 18:08 ` James Houghton
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/51] mm: hugetlb: Rename alloc_surplus_hugetlb_folio Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 20/51] mm: mempolicy: Refactor out policy_node_nodemask() Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 21/51] mm: hugetlb: Inline huge_node() into callers Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 22/51] mm: hugetlb: Refactor hugetlb allocation functions Ackerley Tng
2025-05-31 23:45 ` Ira Weiny
2025-06-13 22:03 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 23/51] mm: hugetlb: Refactor out hugetlb_alloc_folio() Ackerley Tng
2025-06-01 0:38 ` Ira Weiny
2025-06-13 22:07 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 24/51] mm: hugetlb: Add option to create new subpool without using surplus Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 25/51] mm: truncate: Expose preparation steps for truncate_inode_pages_final Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 26/51] mm: Consolidate freeing of typed folios on final folio_put() Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 27/51] mm: hugetlb: Expose hugetlb_subpool_{get,put}_pages() Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 28/51] mm: Introduce guestmem_hugetlb to support folio_put() handling of guestmem pages Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 29/51] mm: guestmem_hugetlb: Wrap HugeTLB as an allocator for guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2025-05-16 14:07 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-16 20:33 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-09-16 22:41 ` Michael Roth
2025-09-16 22:55 ` Michael Roth
2025-09-18 6:38 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-03 14:35 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-03 16:05 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 30/51] mm: truncate: Expose truncate_inode_folio() Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 31/51] KVM: x86: Set disallow_lpage on base_gfn and guest_memfd pgoff misalignment Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 32/51] KVM: guest_memfd: Support guestmem_hugetlb as custom allocator Ackerley Tng
2025-05-23 10:47 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-12 9:13 ` Tony Lindgren
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 33/51] KVM: guest_memfd: Allocate and truncate from " Ackerley Tng
2025-05-21 18:05 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-22 23:12 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-28 10:58 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-03 7:43 ` Binbin Wu
2025-07-16 22:13 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 34/51] mm: hugetlb: Add functions to add/delete folio from hugetlb lists Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 35/51] mm: guestmem_hugetlb: Add support for splitting and merging pages Ackerley Tng
2025-09-16 22:28 ` Michael Roth
2025-09-18 6:53 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-03 16:11 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 36/51] mm: Convert split_folio() macro to function Ackerley Tng
2025-05-21 16:40 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 37/51] filemap: Pass address_space mapping to ->free_folio() Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 38/51] KVM: guest_memfd: Split allocator pages for guest_memfd use Ackerley Tng
2025-05-22 22:19 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-05 17:15 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-05 17:53 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-06-05 17:15 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-05 17:16 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-05 17:16 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-05 17:16 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-27 4:30 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-27 4:38 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-05 17:50 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-27 8:45 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-05 19:10 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-16 11:15 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-05 5:24 ` Binbin Wu
2025-06-05 19:16 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 39/51] KVM: guest_memfd: Merge and truncate on fallocate(PUNCH_HOLE) Ackerley Tng
2025-05-28 11:00 ` Yan Zhao
2025-05-28 16:39 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-29 3:26 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-26 9:14 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 40/51] KVM: guest_memfd: Update kvm_gmem_mapping_order to account for page status Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 41/51] KVM: Add CAP to indicate support for HugeTLB as custom allocator Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 42/51] KVM: selftests: Add basic selftests for hugetlb-backed guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 43/51] KVM: selftests: Update conversion flows test for HugeTLB Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 44/51] KVM: selftests: Test truncation paths of guest_memfd Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 45/51] KVM: selftests: Test allocation and conversion of subfolios Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 46/51] KVM: selftests: Test that guest_memfd usage is reported via hugetlb Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 47/51] KVM: selftests: Support various types of backing sources for private memory Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 48/51] KVM: selftests: Update test for various private memory backing source types Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 49/51] KVM: selftests: Update private_mem_conversions_test.sh to test with HugeTLB pages Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 23:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 50/51] KVM: selftests: Add script to test HugeTLB statistics Ackerley Tng
2025-05-15 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/51] 1G page support for guest_memfd Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-15 18:42 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-15 23:35 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 0:57 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-16 2:12 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 13:11 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-05-16 16:45 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 17:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-16 19:14 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 20:25 ` Dave Hansen
2025-05-16 21:42 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 17:45 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-16 13:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16 17:04 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-05-16 0:22 ` [RFC PATCH v2 51/51] KVM: selftests: Test guest_memfd for accuracy of st_blocks Ackerley Tng
2025-05-16 19:48 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/51] 1G page support for guest_memfd Ira Weiny
2025-05-16 19:59 ` Ira Weiny
2025-05-16 20:26 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-16 22:43 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-06-19 8:13 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-19 8:59 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-06-19 9:18 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-06-19 9:28 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-19 9:45 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-06-19 9:49 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-06-29 18:28 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-06-30 3:14 ` Yan Zhao
2025-06-30 14:14 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-01 5:23 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-01 19:48 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-07 23:25 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-08 0:14 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-08 1:08 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-07-08 14:20 ` Sean Christopherson
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