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From: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/8] mm: Provide pagesize to pmd_populate()
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 18:24:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dee0b89b-8daf-4003-b26f-f612b14012e0@csgroup.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240327165754.GM946323@nvidia.com>



Le 27/03/2024 à 17:57, Jason Gunthorpe a écrit :
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 09:58:35AM +0000, Christophe Leroy wrote:
>>> Just general remarks on the ones with huge pages:
>>>
>>>    hash 64k and hugepage 16M/16G
>>>    radix 64k/radix hugepage 2M/1G
>>>    radix 4k/radix hugepage 2M/1G
>>>    nohash 32
>>>     - I think this is just a normal x86 like scheme? PMD/PUD can be a
>>>       leaf with the same size as a next level table.
>>>
>>>       Do any of these cases need to know the higher level to parse the
>>>       lower? eg is there a 2M bit in the PUD indicating that the PMD
>>>       is a table of 2M leafs or does each PMD entry have a bit
>>>       indicating it is a leaf?
>>
>> For hash and radix there is a bit that tells it is leaf (_PAGE_PTE)
>>
>> For nohash32/e500 I think the drawing is not full right, there is a huge
>> page directory (hugepd) with a single entry. I think it should be
>> possible to change it to a leaf entry, it seems we have bit _PAGE_SW1
>> available in the PTE.
> 
> It sounds to me like PPC breaks down into only a couple fundamental
> behaviors
>   - x86 like leaf in many page levels. Use the pgd/pud/pmd_leaf() and
>     related to implement it
>   - ARM like contig PTE within a single page table level. Use the
>     contig sutff to implement it
>   - Contig PTE across two page table levels with a bit in the
>     PMD. Needs new support like you showed
>   - Page table levels with a variable page size. Ie a PUD can point to
>     a directory of 8 pages or 512 pages of different size. Probbaly
>     needs some new core support, but I think your changes to the
>     *_offset go a long way already.
> 
>>>
>>>    hash 4k and hugepage 16M/16G
>>>    nohash 64
>>>     - How does this work? I guess since 8xx explicitly calls out
>>>       consecutive this is actually the pgd can point to 512 256M
>>>       entries or 8 16G entries? Ie the table size at each level is
>>>       varable? Or is it the same and the table size is still 512 and
>>>       each 16G entry is replicated 64 times?
>>
>> For those it is using the huge page directory (hugepd) which can be
>> hooked at any level and is a directory of huge pages on its own. There
>> is no consecutive entries involved here I think, allthough I'm not
>> completely sure.
>>
>> For hash4k I'm not sure how it works, this was changed by commit
>> e2b3d202d1db ("powerpc: Switch 16GB and 16MB explicit hugepages to a
>> different page table format")
>>
>> For the nohash/64, a PGD entry points either to a regular PUD directory
>> or to a HUGEPD directory. The size of the HUGEPD directory is encoded in
>> the 6 lower bits of the PGD entry.
> 
> If it is a software walker there might be value in just aligning to
> the contig pte scheme in all levels and forgetting about the variable
> size page table levels. That quarter page stuff is a PITA to manage
> the memory allocation for on PPC anyhow..

Looking one step further, into nohash/32, I see a challenge: on that 
platform, a PTE is 64 bits while a PGD/PMD entry is 32 bits. It is 
therefore not possible as such to do PMD leaf or cont-PMD leaf.

I see two possible solutions:
- Double the size of PGD/PMD entries, but then we loose atomicity when 
reading or writing an entry, could this be a problem ?
- Do as for the 8xx, ie go down to PTEs even for pages greater than 4M.

Any thought ?

Christophe

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-03 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-25 14:55 [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reimplement huge pages without hugepd on powerpc 8xx Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] mm: Provide pagesize to pmd_populate() Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 16:19   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-25 19:05     ` Christophe Leroy
2024-03-26 15:01       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-27  9:58         ` Christophe Leroy
2024-03-27 16:57           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-03 18:24             ` Christophe Leroy [this message]
2024-04-04 11:46               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-26  9:29     ` Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] mm: Provide page size to pte_alloc_huge() Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] mm: Provide pmd to pte_leaf_size() Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] mm: Provide mm_struct and address to huge_ptep_get() Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 16:35   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-26  9:25     ` Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] powerpc/mm: Allow hugepages without hugepd Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] powerpc/8xx: Fix size given to set_huge_pte_at() Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 14:56 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] powerpc/8xx: Remove support for 8M pages Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 14:56 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] powerpc/8xx: Add back support for 8M pages using contiguous PTE entries Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 16:38 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reimplement huge pages without hugepd on powerpc 8xx Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-11 16:15   ` Peter Xu
2024-04-12 14:08     ` Christophe Leroy
2024-04-12 14:30       ` Peter Xu
2024-04-15 19:12         ` Christophe Leroy
2024-04-16 10:58           ` Christophe Leroy
2024-04-16 19:40             ` Peter Xu
2024-05-17 14:27 ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-22  9:08   ` Christophe Leroy

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