From: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/8] mm: Provide pagesize to pmd_populate()
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 18:24:38 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dee0b89b-8daf-4003-b26f-f612b14012e0@csgroup.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240327165754.GM946323@nvidia.com>
Le 27/03/2024 à 17:57, Jason Gunthorpe a écrit :
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 09:58:35AM +0000, Christophe Leroy wrote:
>>> Just general remarks on the ones with huge pages:
>>>
>>> hash 64k and hugepage 16M/16G
>>> radix 64k/radix hugepage 2M/1G
>>> radix 4k/radix hugepage 2M/1G
>>> nohash 32
>>> - I think this is just a normal x86 like scheme? PMD/PUD can be a
>>> leaf with the same size as a next level table.
>>>
>>> Do any of these cases need to know the higher level to parse the
>>> lower? eg is there a 2M bit in the PUD indicating that the PMD
>>> is a table of 2M leafs or does each PMD entry have a bit
>>> indicating it is a leaf?
>>
>> For hash and radix there is a bit that tells it is leaf (_PAGE_PTE)
>>
>> For nohash32/e500 I think the drawing is not full right, there is a huge
>> page directory (hugepd) with a single entry. I think it should be
>> possible to change it to a leaf entry, it seems we have bit _PAGE_SW1
>> available in the PTE.
>
> It sounds to me like PPC breaks down into only a couple fundamental
> behaviors
> - x86 like leaf in many page levels. Use the pgd/pud/pmd_leaf() and
> related to implement it
> - ARM like contig PTE within a single page table level. Use the
> contig sutff to implement it
> - Contig PTE across two page table levels with a bit in the
> PMD. Needs new support like you showed
> - Page table levels with a variable page size. Ie a PUD can point to
> a directory of 8 pages or 512 pages of different size. Probbaly
> needs some new core support, but I think your changes to the
> *_offset go a long way already.
>
>>>
>>> hash 4k and hugepage 16M/16G
>>> nohash 64
>>> - How does this work? I guess since 8xx explicitly calls out
>>> consecutive this is actually the pgd can point to 512 256M
>>> entries or 8 16G entries? Ie the table size at each level is
>>> varable? Or is it the same and the table size is still 512 and
>>> each 16G entry is replicated 64 times?
>>
>> For those it is using the huge page directory (hugepd) which can be
>> hooked at any level and is a directory of huge pages on its own. There
>> is no consecutive entries involved here I think, allthough I'm not
>> completely sure.
>>
>> For hash4k I'm not sure how it works, this was changed by commit
>> e2b3d202d1db ("powerpc: Switch 16GB and 16MB explicit hugepages to a
>> different page table format")
>>
>> For the nohash/64, a PGD entry points either to a regular PUD directory
>> or to a HUGEPD directory. The size of the HUGEPD directory is encoded in
>> the 6 lower bits of the PGD entry.
>
> If it is a software walker there might be value in just aligning to
> the contig pte scheme in all levels and forgetting about the variable
> size page table levels. That quarter page stuff is a PITA to manage
> the memory allocation for on PPC anyhow..
Looking one step further, into nohash/32, I see a challenge: on that
platform, a PTE is 64 bits while a PGD/PMD entry is 32 bits. It is
therefore not possible as such to do PMD leaf or cont-PMD leaf.
I see two possible solutions:
- Double the size of PGD/PMD entries, but then we loose atomicity when
reading or writing an entry, could this be a problem ?
- Do as for the 8xx, ie go down to PTEs even for pages greater than 4M.
Any thought ?
Christophe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-03 18:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-25 14:55 [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reimplement huge pages without hugepd on powerpc 8xx Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] mm: Provide pagesize to pmd_populate() Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 16:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-25 19:05 ` Christophe Leroy
2024-03-26 15:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-03-27 9:58 ` Christophe Leroy
2024-03-27 16:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-03 18:24 ` Christophe Leroy [this message]
2024-04-04 11:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-26 9:29 ` Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] mm: Provide page size to pte_alloc_huge() Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] mm: Provide pmd to pte_leaf_size() Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] mm: Provide mm_struct and address to huge_ptep_get() Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 16:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-26 9:25 ` Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] powerpc/mm: Allow hugepages without hugepd Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 14:55 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] powerpc/8xx: Fix size given to set_huge_pte_at() Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 14:56 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] powerpc/8xx: Remove support for 8M pages Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 14:56 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] powerpc/8xx: Add back support for 8M pages using contiguous PTE entries Christophe Leroy
2024-03-25 16:38 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reimplement huge pages without hugepd on powerpc 8xx Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-11 16:15 ` Peter Xu
2024-04-12 14:08 ` Christophe Leroy
2024-04-12 14:30 ` Peter Xu
2024-04-15 19:12 ` Christophe Leroy
2024-04-16 10:58 ` Christophe Leroy
2024-04-16 19:40 ` Peter Xu
2024-05-17 14:27 ` Oscar Salvador
2024-05-22 9:08 ` Christophe Leroy
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