From: Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nikunj@amd.com,
"Upadhyay, Neeraj" <Neeraj.Upadhyay@amd.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
willy@infradead.org, vbabka@suse.cz, kinseyho@google.com,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: Re: Hard and soft lockups with FIO and LTP runs on a large system
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 09:47:01 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <deddb7b4-02f6-46aa-a075-cf9b7083ffd8@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGudoHEd9FL+Mhk8GdFm+3gvBk35ho-BTX-f7jn=O5Lz2mij-Q@mail.gmail.com>
On 20-Jul-24 1:27 PM, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 10:21 PM Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:
>> I can't come up with any reasonable band-aid at this moment, i.e.,
>> something not too ugly to work around a more fundamental scalability
>> problem.
>>
>> Before I give up: what type of dirty data was written back to the nvme
>> device? Was it page cache or swap?
>>
>
> With my corporate employee hat on, I would like to note a couple of
> three things.
>
> 1. there are definitely bugs here and someone(tm) should sort them out(R)
>
> however....
>
> 2. the real goal is presumably to beat the kernel into shape where
> production kernels no longer suffer lockups running this workload on
> this hardware
> 3. the flamegraph (to be found in [1]) shows expensive debug enabled,
> notably for preemption count (search for preempt_count_sub to see)
> 4. I'm told the lruvec problem is being worked on (but no ETA) and I
> don't think the above justifies considering any hacks or otherwise
> putting more pressure on it
>
> It is plausible eliminating the aforementioned debug will be good enough.
>
> Apart from that I note percpu_counter_add_batch (+ irq debug) accounts
> for 5.8% cpu time. This will of course go down if irq tracing is
> disabled, but so happens I optimized this routine to be faster
> single-threaded (in particular by dodging the interrupt trip). The
> patch is hanging out in the mm tree [2] and is trivially applicable
> for testing.
>
> Even if none of the debug opts can get modified, this should drop
> percpu_counter_add_batch to 1.5% or so, which may or may not have a
> side effect of avoiding the lockup problem.
Thanks, A few debug options were turned ON to gather debug data. Will do
a full run once with them turned OFF and with the above
percpu_counter_add_batch patch.
Regards,
Bharata.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-22 4:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-03 15:11 Bharata B Rao
2024-07-06 22:42 ` Yu Zhao
2024-07-08 14:34 ` Bharata B Rao
2024-07-08 16:17 ` Yu Zhao
2024-07-09 4:30 ` Bharata B Rao
2024-07-09 5:58 ` Yu Zhao
2024-07-11 5:43 ` Bharata B Rao
2024-07-15 5:19 ` Bharata B Rao
2024-07-19 20:21 ` Yu Zhao
2024-07-20 7:57 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-07-22 4:17 ` Bharata B Rao [this message]
2024-07-22 4:12 ` Bharata B Rao
2024-07-25 9:59 ` zhaoyang.huang
2024-07-26 3:26 ` Zhaoyang Huang
2024-07-29 4:49 ` Bharata B Rao
2024-08-13 11:04 ` Usama Arif
2024-08-13 17:43 ` Yu Zhao
2024-07-17 9:37 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-17 10:50 ` Bharata B Rao
2024-07-17 11:15 ` Hillf Danton
2024-07-18 9:02 ` Bharata B Rao
2024-07-10 12:03 ` Bharata B Rao
2024-07-10 12:24 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-07-10 13:04 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-07-15 5:22 ` Bharata B Rao
2024-07-15 6:48 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-07-10 18:04 ` Yu Zhao
2024-07-17 9:42 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-07-17 10:31 ` Bharata B Rao
2024-07-17 16:44 ` Karim Manaouil
2024-07-17 11:29 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-07-18 9:00 ` Bharata B Rao
2024-07-18 12:11 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-07-19 6:16 ` Bharata B Rao
2024-07-19 7:06 ` Yu Zhao
2024-07-19 14:26 ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-07-17 16:34 ` Karim Manaouil
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