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From: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
To: Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 10/15] riscv: pgtable: move pagetable_dtor() to __tlb_remove_table()
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 11:49:41 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <de8756aa-dbf7-4f6f-91f0-934270397192@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9a14211-4bbd-4fb6-ba87-a555a40bb67a@arm.com>

Hi Kevin,

On 2025/1/3 21:27, Kevin Brodsky wrote:
> On 03/01/2025 10:35, Qi Zheng wrote:
>> On 2025/1/3 17:13, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>> On 2025/1/3 16:02, Kevin Brodsky wrote:
>>>> On 03/01/2025 04:48, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> In __tlb_batch_free_encoded_pages(), we can indeed detect PageTable()
>>>>> and call pagetable_dtor() to dtor the page table pages.
>>>>> But __tlb_batch_free_encoded_pages() is also used to free normal pages
>>>>> (not page table pages), so I don't want to add overhead there.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting, can a tlb batch refer to pages than are not PTPs then?
>>>
>>> Yes, you can see the caller of __tlb_remove_folio_pages() or
>>> tlb_remove_page_size().
> 
> I had a brief look but clearly not a good enough one! I hadn't realised
> that "table" in tlb_remove_table() means PTP, while "page" in
> tlb_remove_page() can mean any page, and it's making more sense now.
> 
> [...]
> 
>>>
>>> For arm, the call to pagetable_dtor() is indeed missed in the
>>> non-MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE case. This needs to be fixed. But we
>>> can't fix this by adding pagetable_dtor() to tlb_remove_table(),
>>> because some architectures call tlb_remove_table() but don't support
>>> page table statistics, like sparc.
> 
> When I investigated this for my own series, I found that the only case
> where ctor/dtor are not called for page-sized page tables is 32-bit
> sparc (see table at the end of [1]). However only 64-bit sparc makes use
> of tlb_remove_table() (at PTE level, where ctor/dtor are already called).

Thanks for providing this information.

> 
> So really calling pagetable_dtor() from tlb_remove_table() in the
> non-MMU_GATHER_TABLE_FREE case seems to be the obvious thing to do.

Right. Currently, only powerpc, sparc and x86 will directly call
tlb_remove_table(), and all of them are in the MMU_GATHER_TABLE_FREE
case. Therefore, I think the modification you mentioned below is
feasible.

In summary, currently only arm calls tlb_remove_table() in the
non-MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE case. So I think we can add this fix
directly to patch #8. If I haven't missed anything, I'll send an
updated patch #8.

> 
> Once this is done, we should be able to replace all those confusing
> calls to tlb_remove_page() on PTPs with tlb_remove_table() and remove
> the explicit call to pagetable_dtor(). AIUI this is essentially what
> Peter suggested on v3 [2].

Since this patch series is mainly for bug fix, I think that these things
can be done in separate patch series later.

> 
> [1]
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20241219164425.2277022-1-kevin.brodsky@arm.com/
> [2]
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20250103111457.GC22934@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net/
> 
> [...]
> 
>> Or can we just not let tlb_remove_table() fall back to
>> tlb_remove_page()? Like the following:
>>
>> diff --git a/include/asm-generic/tlb.h b/include/asm-generic/tlb.h
>> index a59205863f431..354ffaa4bd120 100644
>> --- a/include/asm-generic/tlb.h
>> +++ b/include/asm-generic/tlb.h
>> @@ -195,8 +195,6 @@
>>    *  various ptep_get_and_clear() functions.
>>    */
>>
>> -#ifdef CONFIG_MMU_GATHER_TABLE_FREE
>> -
>>   struct mmu_table_batch {
>>   #ifdef CONFIG_MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE
>>          struct rcu_head         rcu;
>> @@ -219,16 +217,6 @@ static inline void __tlb_remove_table(void *table)
>>
>>   extern void tlb_remove_table(struct mmu_gather *tlb, void *table);
>>
>> -#else /* !CONFIG_MMU_GATHER_HAVE_TABLE_FREE */
>> -
>> -/*
>> - * Without MMU_GATHER_TABLE_FREE the architecture is assumed to have
>> page based
>> - * page directories and we can use the normal page batching to free
>> them.
>> - */
>> -#define tlb_remove_table(tlb, page) tlb_remove_page((tlb), (page))
> 
> We still need a different implementation of tlb_remove_table() in this
> case. We could define it inline here:
> 
> static inline void tlb_remove_table(struct mmu_gather *tlb, void *table)
> {
>      struct page *page = table;
> 
>      pagetable_dtor(page_ptdesc(page));
>      tlb_remove_page(page);
> }

Right. As I said above, will add this to the updated patch #8.

Thanks!

> 
> - Kevin


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-06  3:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-30  9:07 [PATCH v4 00/15] move pagetable_*_dtor() " Qi Zheng
2024-12-30  9:07 ` [PATCH v4 01/15] Revert "mm: pgtable: make ptlock be freed by RCU" Qi Zheng
2024-12-30  9:07 ` [PATCH v4 02/15] riscv: mm: Skip pgtable level check in {pud,p4d}_alloc_one Qi Zheng
2025-01-06 11:20   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2024-12-30  9:07 ` [PATCH v4 03/15] asm-generic: pgalloc: Provide generic p4d_{alloc_one,free} Qi Zheng
2024-12-30  9:07 ` [PATCH v4 04/15] mm: pgtable: add statistics for P4D level page table Qi Zheng
2025-01-02 16:53   ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-01-03  3:53     ` Qi Zheng
2025-01-03  7:46       ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-12-30  9:07 ` [PATCH v4 05/15] arm64: pgtable: use mmu gather to free p4d " Qi Zheng
2024-12-30  9:07 ` [PATCH v4 06/15] s390: pgtable: add statistics for PUD and P4D " Qi Zheng
2025-01-06 10:32   ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-01-06 11:05     ` Qi Zheng
2025-01-06 13:34       ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-01-06 13:37         ` Qi Zheng
2024-12-30  9:07 ` [PATCH v4 07/15] mm: pgtable: introduce pagetable_dtor() Qi Zheng
2025-01-06 10:34   ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-01-06 10:55     ` Qi Zheng
2025-01-06 12:36       ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-01-06 13:23         ` Qi Zheng
2025-01-07  9:23           ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-12-30  9:07 ` [PATCH v4 08/15] arm: pgtable: move pagetable_dtor() to __tlb_remove_table() Qi Zheng
2024-12-30  9:07 ` [PATCH v4 09/15] arm64: " Qi Zheng
2024-12-30  9:07 ` [PATCH v4 10/15] riscv: " Qi Zheng
2025-01-02 16:53   ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-01-03  3:48     ` Qi Zheng
2025-01-03  8:02       ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-01-03  9:13         ` Qi Zheng
2025-01-03  9:35           ` Qi Zheng
2025-01-03 13:27             ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-01-06  3:49               ` Qi Zheng [this message]
2025-01-07  9:57                 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-01-07 10:51                   ` Qi Zheng
2025-01-07 11:58                     ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-01-07 12:31                       ` Qi Zheng
2025-01-07 14:17                         ` Kevin Brodsky
2024-12-30  9:07 ` [PATCH v4 11/15] x86: " Qi Zheng
2024-12-30  9:07 ` [PATCH v4 12/15] s390: pgtable: also move pagetable_dtor() of PxD " Qi Zheng
2025-01-06 10:36   ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-01-06 11:02     ` Qi Zheng
2025-01-06 12:44       ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-01-06 13:34         ` Qi Zheng
2025-01-06 14:35           ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-01-06 14:44             ` Qi Zheng
2024-12-30  9:07 ` [PATCH v4 13/15] mm: pgtable: introduce generic __tlb_remove_table() Qi Zheng
2025-01-07 12:32   ` Andreas Larsson
2025-01-07 12:34     ` Qi Zheng
2025-01-07 14:20   ` Alexander Gordeev
2024-12-30  9:07 ` [PATCH v4 14/15] mm: pgtable: move __tlb_remove_table_one() in x86 to generic file Qi Zheng
2024-12-30  9:07 ` [PATCH v4 15/15] mm: pgtable: introduce generic pagetable_dtor_free() Qi Zheng
2025-01-07 14:22   ` Alexander Gordeev
2024-12-31  0:24 ` [PATCH v4 00/15] move pagetable_*_dtor() to __tlb_remove_table() Andrew Morton
2025-01-02 17:00 ` Kevin Brodsky
2025-01-03  3:56   ` Qi Zheng

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