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From: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC LPC2026 PATCH v2 00/11] Specific Purpose Memory NUMA Nodes
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2025 10:19:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <de15aca2-a27c-4a9b-b2bf-3f132990cd98@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251112192936.2574429-1-gourry@gourry.net>

[...]

> 2) The addition of `cpuset.mems.sysram` which restricts allocations to
>     `mt_sysram_nodes` unless GFP_SPM_NODE is used.
> 
>     SPM Nodes are still allowed in cpuset.mems.allowed and effective.
> 
>     This is done to allow separate control over sysram and SPM node sets
>     by cgroups while maintaining the existing hierarchical rules.
> 
>     current cpuset configuration
>     cpuset.mems_allowed
>      |.mems_effective         < (mems_allowed ∩ parent.mems_effective)
>      |->tasks.mems_allowed    < cpuset.mems_effective
> 
>     new cpuset configuration
>     cpuset.mems_allowed
>      |.mems_effective         < (mems_allowed ∩ parent.mems_effective)
>      |.sysram_nodes           < (mems_effective ∩ default_sys_nodemask)
>      |->task.sysram_nodes     < cpuset.sysram_nodes
> 
>     This means mems_allowed still restricts all node usage in any given
>     task context, which is the existing behavior.
> 
> 3) Addition of MHP_SPM_NODE flag to instruct memory_hotplug.c that the
>     capacity being added should mark the node as an SPM Node.

Sounds a bit like the wrong interface for configuring this. This smells 
like a per-node setting that should be configured before hotplugging any 
memory.

> 
>     A node is either SysRAM or SPM - never both.  Attempting to add
>     incompatible memory to a node results in hotplug failure.
> 
>     DAX and CXL are made aware of the bit and have `spm_node` bits added
>     to their relevant subsystems.
> 
> 4) Adding GFP_SPM_NODE - which allows page_alloc.c to request memory
>     from the provided node or nodemask.  It changes the behavior of
>     the cpuset mems_allowed and mt_node_allowed() checks.

I wonder why that is required. Couldn't we disallow allocation from one 
of these special nodes as default, and only allow it if someone 
explicitly passes in the node for allocation?

What's the problem with that?

-- 
Cheers

David


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-11-24  9:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-12 19:29 Gregory Price
2025-11-12 19:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/11] mm: constify oom_control, scan_control, and alloc_context nodemask Gregory Price
2025-11-12 19:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/11] mm: change callers of __cpuset_zone_allowed to cpuset_zone_allowed Gregory Price
2025-11-12 19:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/11] gfp: Add GFP_SPM_NODE for Specific Purpose Memory (SPM) allocations Gregory Price
2025-11-12 19:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/11] memory-tiers: Introduce SysRAM and Specific Purpose Memory Nodes Gregory Price
2025-11-12 19:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/11] mm: restrict slub, oom, compaction, and page_alloc to sysram by default Gregory Price
2025-11-12 19:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/11] mm,cpusets: rename task->mems_allowed to task->sysram_nodes Gregory Price
2025-11-12 19:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/11] cpuset: introduce cpuset.mems.sysram Gregory Price
2025-11-12 19:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/11] mm/memory_hotplug: add MHP_SPM_NODE flag Gregory Price
2025-11-13 14:58   ` [PATCH] memory-tiers: multi-definition fixup Gregory Price
2025-11-13 16:37     ` kernel test robot
2025-11-12 19:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/11] drivers/dax: add spm_node bit to dev_dax Gregory Price
2025-11-12 19:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/11] drivers/cxl: add spm_node bit to cxl region Gregory Price
2025-11-12 19:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/11] [HACK] mm/zswap: compressed ram integration example Gregory Price
2025-11-18  7:02 ` [RFC LPC2026 PATCH v2 00/11] Specific Purpose Memory NUMA Nodes Alistair Popple
2025-11-18 10:36   ` Gregory Price
2025-11-21 21:07   ` Gregory Price
2025-11-23 23:09     ` Alistair Popple
2025-11-24 15:28       ` Gregory Price
2025-11-27  5:03         ` Alistair Popple
2025-11-24  9:19 ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat) [this message]
2025-11-24 18:06   ` Gregory Price
2025-11-25 14:09 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-11-25 15:05   ` Gregory Price
2025-11-27  5:12     ` Alistair Popple
2025-11-26  3:23 ` Balbir Singh
2025-11-26  8:29   ` Gregory Price
2025-12-03  4:36     ` Balbir Singh
2025-12-03  5:25       ` Gregory Price

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